OMG i had no idea!!! (Atari LYNX related)

[merman]

I'll go back on topic now

So is there a list of Lynx titles well worth getting somewhere? I think I missed the main lot when I got mine originally (only had those I mentioned earlier and Klax), and now I've only got Chips Challenge and Slimeworld.

From Retro Gamer 18:

Rampart, Chip's Challenge, Blue Lightning, Battlewheels, Klax, Roadblasters, Paperboy, Lemmings.

[Kronos]

I'll go back on topic now

So is there a list of Lynx titles well worth getting somewhere? I think I missed the main lot when I got mine originally (only had those I mentioned earlier and Klax), and now I've only got Chips Challenge and Slimeworld.

From Retro Gamer 18:

Rampart, Chip's Challenge, Blue Lightning, Battlewheels, Klax, Roadblasters, Paperboy, Lemmings.

gauntlet easily the best handheld version...and u didnt have to get that sms to ggear converter to plug a massive cart in the back unlike the poor sega owners i fink

[Kronos]

the amiga 1000 would have cleaned up but for 2 reasons 1...the OS was written/adapted from tripos by dr tim king of metacomco as the original os was fried i think but screwed anyway. only a complete prick would think the amiga was LESS reliable than any copy of windows pre win2k or xp haha noobs! as for viruses....

come on, you can do better than that, there are a whole lot of reason the amiga failed to remain competive.. oh and don't get me started on amiga viruses.... (oh and the lynx was made by the holy jay miner too.., talk about a brilliant designer )..

do love my miggy though......

jay miner died of cancer was very sad when i read his wifes(?) tribute on the web, i had ultimate respect for him and his work for atari and commodore. what an amazing guy surely the einstein of the home computer world..256 colours when most people had 8/16 and 4 onscrean pmsl. i didnt think he worked on the lynx as it wasnt mentioned in retrogamer so im not sure now...googling is on the cards now!

theres lots of reasons the amiga failed but the biggest reason is it needed a real company like ibm to end up being owned by......

[Kronos]

irvin gould and medhi ali are the fuckwits who killed commodore, new plastic casings but same processor and custom chips for years=stagnation=eventual bankrupcy!!

Can't argue too much with that point.
Edit : Well, that, and Gould and Ali's wages at the time. They were bloody enormous.

the amiga 1000 would have cleaned up but for 2 reasons 1...the OS was written/adapted from tripos by dr tim king of metacomco as the original os was fried i think but screwed anyway. only a complete prick would think the amiga was LESS reliable than any copy of windows pre win2k or xp haha noobs! as for viruses....

Wrong, the AmigaDOS was adapted from Tripos, the rest of the AmigaOS was put together by Carl Sassenrath (Exec), R.J.Mical (Intuition) and others. AmigaDOS/Tripos were written in BCPL, thus those blasted BPTRS.

also it wasnt released with a pc emulator this was so important to get businesses onboard until some1 bothered to port the top whack business apps to the machine...scribble or wordperfect???!?!?! ....at the time the absolute best was a 286 and ega...pffff useless machine costing 3x as much the amiga was light yrs ahead of its time in 85 and it was up and running in 84 in prototype boards anyway. they got royally ass fukt by cbm and atari anyway as is usualy with any great design by a small group of geniuses.

Wordperfect was available for the Amiga. I had/have a copy somewhere. And there was a PC emulator - Sidecar anyone? There was also Transformer (software only) which could run some basic PC apps (it coped quite well with Wordperfect 4.2). Can't argue with the "light years ahead of it's time". I've still got the incredibly worn issue of Byte that I must have read hundreds of times before I finally got an A500

basically if atari and cbms best products were owned by sony things would be very different and if sony release a PS3 based "pc" intel and amd will be fukt and things will finally get beyond the stagnant shit that is the windows pc farce. if we had a decent efficient os u could afford to go on holiday and not have to buy a new pc every year when windows gets even more bloated and fukt

You're dreaming. IBM clones already had a solid foothold by then - and if they'd released the PC emulator you speak of early on, it would have just resulted in developers saying "If you want to run our software, you'll have to run it on the emulator, we haven't got the resources to port to such a small platform".

(oh and the lynx was made by the holy jay miner too.., talk about a brilliant designer )..

Jay Miner had nothing to do with the Lynx (edit : apart from probably being a large influence on those that did design it) , but I can't argue with the brilliant designer bit. I think by that time he'd moved back into medical appliances. He worked on the 2600, Atari 8-bits, and the Amiga for definite though.

Edit : Even more off topic I suppose, but those of you interested in what the Amiga could have ended up may or may not have seen the documents at the Dave Haynie Archive; if not, it's here : http://www.thule.no/haynie/

yeah the better than sega saturn performance graphics things for Tripple AAA custom chips i think i remember. dave haynie was one of the few talented people to survive medhi ali's idiotic culling and he was such a pc wanker

as for that byte magazine article..............do you have a scanner?

i have never nicked anything in my life but that byte magizine you have was my apple in the garden of eden, it was beggin to be plucked from the uni library where some nonce probably using it as a book rest or to write his thesis about some bollox

[leekfiend]

Get an Itanium and run Linux or some Unix on it?

Or... VMS! <3 <3

:decwanker:

[Kronos]

basically if atari and cbms best products were owned by sony things would be very different and if sony release a PS3 based "pc" intel and amd will be fukt and things will finally get beyond the stagnant shit that is the windows pc farce. if we had a decent efficient os u could afford to go on holiday and not have to buy a new pc every year when windows gets even more bloated and fukt

No. You're wrong . If you look for some of the excellent posts by various forum geniuses (I'm looking at Kemper_Boyd at this point amongst others) they've already mentioned that the Cell CPU is not particularly general purpose, and would not run current software, or even general purpose software particularly well. If it was really the wonderful be all and end all of CPU then we wouldn't have heard a certain large computer manufacturer switching to Intel recently, rather a much happier Sony / IBM.


And FFS, if the "windows pc farce" bothers you so much then buy a mac or use linux on a badger or something! Also, I've got 5 year old PC's running Windows XP quite happily with none of this bloatedness which you describe. Don't blaim the fact that people install all sorts of shite on the OS - things aren't nearly as "fukt" as you describe

Cheers

Bubba

no.....you dont get what i meant. what exactly do people do with pc's? play games, write music, do art, process videos, surf the net, write letters do some accounts maybe etc. u can do all this fine on a processor in the class of a p3 1ghz etc if that!! apart from playing shit hot games like bf2 or converting dvds to divx it dont really make no odds. second thing is only an idiot would try to convince me that xp is not a bloated pile of shit in terms of elegance of coding goes! there is no reason why you couldnt write an OS for the ps3 that does what it needs to do. i know enough about processors to know that however unsuitable it is for running something like xp im sure it could easily run something that looks as good and is 10x more efficient than a pc running xp. think wb 3.1 on a miggy 4000. pisses all over any version of windows pre win2k. and even runs well @ 14mhz ffs. and i have a libretto wiv 32mb 166mhz playing fullscreen DVDs and also probably the only person who bothered to get XP working on it probably there are some things that really impress me about XP but on the whole it isnt a very elegant piece of code...infact its as elegant as bill gates face my point was if sony WANTED to they could re-create the home computer market it would be the spiritual successor to the a1000 for sure. shit hot sound gfx alien processor and just well light yrs ahead of any pc you could buy with a bespoke o.s. let me dream ffs will ya if ms pissed off sony...well look wot happened when nintendo pissed them off...the playstation was born!! haha bet those fuckwits at nintendo really regret publicly humiliating sony over the snes cdrom hahaha sweeeeeeeeet and thats why i have respect for sony that and only that <ps2 is technically shit lol>


the other comment was ..... post windows 95 the whole world of home computers just dissapeared (win95 was the first product good enough for most people to abandon the mac and the st and the amiga really...windows 1 2 and 3 is just awful!). nowadays u can have a pc or a console thats it. macs.....no better than pc's in revolutionary hardware terms sorry infact for a long time they were just "a better o.s." not that i really ever warmed to pre os x macs....give me wb3 anyday. but those days are gone now forever and the excitement with it too was my point. who can forget owning a vic n reading wot the 64 could do...then again when the a1000 come out etc.... linux lost my interest when quake the linux version didnt run any better than the dos/windows version!! pfffff boringgggggggg </vivian from the young ones voice> thats what i meant

[skab]

jay miner died of cancer was very sad when i read his wifes(?) tribute on the web, i had ultimate respect for him and his work for atari and commodore.

I still have his autograph somewhere.

His design for the Atari 8-bit custom chips was just brilliant. Even more maybe than the Amiga chips, considering the time the Ataris came out. I mean, 1978, 1979? And already tons of colours, the whole display list concept and everything. It took CBM another 2 years till they finally came up with some crappy 22x23 character screen, which just shows how advanced that Atari chipset was. More or less the same chips were the basic hardware for all Atari 8-bit machines way into the 80s.

[Kronos]

they were quite similar machines, the whole business with the copper lists is just pure atari 8-bit display lists on steriods

[corrosive]

jay miner died of cancer was very sad when i read his wifes(?) tribute on the web, i had ultimate respect for him and his work for atari and commodore. what an amazing guy surely the einstein of the home computer world..256 colours when most people had 8/16 and 4 onscrean pmsl. i didnt think he worked on the lynx as it wasnt mentioned in retrogamer so im not sure now...googling is on the cards now!

theres lots of reasons the amiga failed but the biggest reason is it needed a real company like ibm to end up being owned by......

I thought it was kidney failure? He had kidney problems for a lot of his life, AFAIK.

I'm 99.9 recurring % sure he didn't work on the Lynx, but I really can't imagine that he wasn't an influence on those guys who did design the Lynx that worked at Amiga with him.

Edit:

as for that byte magazine article..............do you have a scanner?

Yes, yes, I do, sounds like quite a good idea that - the magazine is in storage at the mo (at my parents), but I'll grab it and do some scanning as soon as possible. Not sure how I'll manage to fold the magazine open enough, and I'm loathe to cut it, but I'll do something

they were quite similar machines, the whole business with the copper lists is just pure atari 8-bit display lists on steriods

Strangely enough I didn't really become familiar with the 8-bit Ataris until after my Amiga days, and it was quite funny seeing how similar the ideas behind it seemed to be in places.

Or... VMS! <3 <3

:decwanker:

<Looks at Vaxstation 3100 M76 and grins>

<ps2 is technically shit lol>

See, I definitely disagree with you there. I don't think the PS2 is technically that bad at all. It was certainly an interesting attempt. Pity about the Sony hype machine though.

[ophion]

RJ Michal did the Lynx and the 3DO (as well as Amiga chips).

[corrosive]

RJ Michal did the Lynx and the 3DO (as well as Amiga chips).

Thought he only worked on the software for the Amiga? Although I did hear it was a somewhat closely linked process (the hw and sw guys worked hand in hand).

[ophion]

RJ Michal did the Lynx and the 3DO (as well as Amiga chips).

Thought he only worked on the software for the Amiga? Although I did hear it was a somewhat closely linked process (the hw and sw guys worked hand in hand).

You are right, of course--he did Intuition. I spelled his name incorrectly, too (no "h").

[corrosive]

You are right, of course--he did Intuition. I spelled his name incorrectly, too (no "h").

I noticed, but I thought I'd get punched if I became even more pedantic

Edit :
You know what really annoys me? Go and look how many books there are about Apple and the Macintosh. There's tons. Absolutely loads. I've got most of them. So where is the history of the Amiga? Or even better a history from the 2600 to the 3DO or wherever the Amiga guys finally all disappeared (hardware wise - I know at least R.J.Mical was involved in games for a bit longer - including Fathammer briefly I think)?

I know. I'm sad.

[ophion]

You are right, of course--he did Intuition. I spelled his name incorrectly, too (no "h").

I noticed, but I thought I'd get punched if I became even more pedantic

Never by me.

[corrosive]

Oops. I know edit-posting would catch me eventually.