Football: WORLD CUP 06 and close season/transfer discussion.

mac monkey · Post by **mac monkey** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:42 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:
Of course, once they sell Baros, they will need a striker, and it'll be "Welcome back Michael, have a cupcake" before you know it, or the end of the week, whichever comes first.

Hope so

/rubs hands together

romanista · Post by **romanista** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:27 pm 0

cyric100 wrote:Reports I've seen suggest Kuyt isn't going anywhere in this transfer window...

feyenoord is going to put p a fight though.. it is the only class player they have.. still van nistelrooy advised Kuyt on dutch telly to go

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:54 am 0

Mixed feelings about Meeelan really. If he just lifted his head up once in a while it'd make all the difference. Could never understand why he couldn't do something that's drilled into you on the street

We need a striker now anyway if truth be told. SG's our top scorer and he's injured. Everyone else seems to be low on confidence.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:50 am 0

Still no new striker for Newcastle:

Newcastle look to have missed out on Deportivo La Coruna's Albert Luque after the Spanish club rejected their final bid for the striker.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 165124.stm

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:36 am 0

@Geenius

No mealy-mouthed bigotry here: serious question. Do Everton have Â£20+ mil to spend on players and the finances to support relevant wages etc? 'Cos apparently Moyes has put in an offer for both Kuyt and Owen

I didnt think EFC could support even one ofthsoe signings at the moment. Allegedly Moyes has said that Everton want to be seen as making offers for this type of player. Again, I'm not being a div here but many of my blue's mates bemoan this tactic of Everton's, i.e. beidding for everyone/anyone regardless. Doesn't this undermine the club's credibility?? What's going on?

Weird.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:40 am 0

KevG wrote:@Geenius

No mealy-mouthed bigotry here: serious question. Do Everton have Â£20+ mil to spend on players and the finances to support relevant wages etc? 'Cos apparently Moyes has put in an offer for both Kuyt and Owen

I didnt think EFC could support even one ofthsoe signings at the moment. Allegedly Moyes has said that Everton want to be seen as making offers for this type of player. Again, I'm not being a div here but many of my blue's mates bemoan this tactic of Everton's, i.e. beidding for everyone/anyone regardless. Doesn't this undermine the club's credibility?? What's going on?

Weird.

Well, last year they sold Rooney for Â£27million, had their most successful campaign in the modern era and also finished with a European slot, so I'd have to assume they've got a few bucks to spend.

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:44 am 0

Zen-Chan wrote: Well, last year they sold Rooney for 27million, had their most successful campaign in the modern era and also finished a European slot, so I'd have to assume they've got a few bucks to spend.

Indeed. I'm no expert re the finances of Everton but they were also servicing a huge debt which I reckon would have chewed most of the Roney fee up. Depends on how the debt was structured I suppose. They were/ a re definitely still looking for additional financial backing: a source of additional irritation to some blues. The general impression I got was that they are in much better nick but not flush.

Managed to find a Moyes interview. It seems EFC do have the finances for one of the players (Owen turned them down) but then there's stil lthat strange comment "we just want to show people we are in for these players"

Feynoord want Â£12mil now which Moyes has said is too much.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:11 pm 0

We're fucked.

It's becoming obvious now that Shepherd has absolutely no intention of letting Souness spend any more cash, and is hanging him out to dry. I wouldn't be surprised if my prediction comes true, and Souness is sacked on Monday, with a replacement appointed on Tuesday and there being a couple of desperate, last-second attempts to sign players, which will probably come to nothing anyway.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:15 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:We're fucked.

It's becoming obvious now that Shepherd has absolutely no intention of letting Souness spend any more cash, and is hanging him out to dry. I wouldn't be surprised if my prediction comes true, and Souness is sacked on Monday, with a replacement appointed on Tuesday and there being a couple of desperate, last-second attempts to sign players, which will probably come to nothing anyway.

David O'Leary, then?

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:17 pm 0

More than likely.

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:34 pm 0

On what grounds can they possibly sack Souness? He's had a mare with regard to Lady Luck? I dunno: this cycle of quick-fix get-another-manager-in-quick just serves to compund the sense of instability at the club, IMHO.

I fear the worst, though. Ironically, if they'd have signed O'Leary up at the start of the season, he may have brought Baros to St James' as the much needed extra striker.

Tetra Elemental · Post by **Tetra Elemental** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:37 pm 0

Why is O' Leary in the frame? He unsettled at Villa then?

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:46 pm 0

KevG wrote: On what grounds can they possibly sack Souness?

On the grounds that Shepherd is the chairman, and he does what he likes.

Four games in, we'll have maybe two points, and that will be grounds for Shepherd. Of course, if he'd splashed out for a couple of strikers, which everybody knew we desperately needed, we might have a lot more than two points after four games. But Shepherd will just say the manager has lost the team, or some such bollocks.

Tetra Elemental wrote:Why is O' Leary in the frame? He unsettled at Villa then?

Just a name thrown about. I think he'd probably jump at the chance of moving away from Deadly Doug to a team where he would, at first, be given a reasonable chunk of cash, though.

Tetra Elemental · Post by **Tetra Elemental** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:21 pm 0

Shearer, player-manager. What odds down the bookies?

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:25 pm 0

Tetra Elemental wrote:Shearer, player-manager. What odds down the bookies?

Probably about 5/4. Still reckon it'll be Of The Leary, though. Although Fat Fred really, really wants us to have a Geordie manager, so the Shearer thing is definitely possible. I'm just hoping that Shearer has more sense than ego.