Football: WORLD CUP 06 and close season/transfer discussion.

cyric100 · Post by **cyric100** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:26 pm 0

Be a bit weird to sack Souey so soon in, just as it was with SBR. If you are going to replace your manager it makes more sense to do it at the end of the previous season, so any replacement can then build the team he wants rather than inheriting the previous crap.

Tetra Elemental · Post by **Tetra Elemental** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:29 pm 0

cyric100 wrote:Be a bit weird to sack Souey so soon in, just as it was with SBR. If you are going to replace your manager it makes more sense to do it at the end of the previous season, so any replacement can then build the team he wants rather than inheriting the previous crap.

Yep, makes no sense at all but its inevitable, isn't it? One of the universal rules of footy, like sitting back when you're 1-0 up. No sense to it but it happens all the time.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:32 pm 0

Our chairman always sacks managers after about four games of the season. He never makes any sense whatsoever.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:34 pm 0

Just curious ... why are you defending Souness? What has he done positive for Newcastle since he's been there?

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:38 pm 0

Guru-Meditation wrote:Just curious ... why are you defending Souness? What has he done positive for Newcastle since he's been there?

Got rid of most of the troublemakers. Made us look a bit more solid.

I was very much against his appointment when it happened, but once he was appointed, I would at least have liked for him to be given a fair shake. He just hasn't had that at all, from the fans and now from the chairman (who appointed him initially to do exactly what he has done).

I still don't think he's necessarily capable of leading us to great things, but I would have liked him to be backed for at least some period of time. I'm starting to feel a little bit sorry for him, to be honest.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:01 pm 0

You know, Liverpool had so many little breaks and half-chances in the opposition box tonight - the sort that Michael Owen would have just popped up and slotted home

Tetra Elemental · Post by **Tetra Elemental** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:11 pm 0

Congrats to Thun in making it to the champions league.

Leeds did Oldham 2-0.
Ricketts scored!

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:11 pm 0

What Paul said, double. Souness wouldn't have been my first choice, but nobody who would have was available and he was probably the best of a bad bunch. Everything done since he arrived has been a reasonable idea in my eyes (with the exception of failing to renew Olivier Bernard's contract, which was utter madness, but I suspect something Souness did not have too much of a hand in).

If we had been able to bring in one top-quality centre-forward and one additional half-decent centre-forward then I think we'd be looking forward to a reasonable season. Without the additional strikers it's going to be a long, long season. And I'm not sure I blame Souness for that failure.

And the 'fans' should back the bloody team and not boo it.

fog · Post by **fog** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:12 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:
Guru-Meditation wrote:Just curious ... why are you defending Souness? What has he done positive for Newcastle since he's been there?
Got rid of most of the troublemakers. Made us look a bit more solid.

I was very much against his appointment when it happened, but once he was appointed, I would at least have liked for him to be given a fair shake. He just hasn't had that at all, from the fans and now from the chairman (who appointed him initially to do exactly what he has done).

I still don't think he's necessarily capable of leading us to great things, but I would have liked him to be backed for at least some period of time. I'm starting to feel a little bit sorry for him, to be honest.

Couldn't have put it any better myself.

There are a few very vocal anti-Souness supporters but more and more people are starting to realise he's working in very difficult circumstances.

I still think we are only a couple of players away from being a really decent side, but because our squad is so small we are also only a couple of injuries away from being relegation fodder.

I fear another Fat Freddy masterstroke on the horizon.....sacking another manager 4 games in.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:30 pm 0

Well, will have to see how it goes from now. But I think your team has gone backward since he joined.

Heard this on the radio : "The sale of Baros will not go towards Owen but will fund the purchase of Crouch."

Blimey *_* He's not the greatest striker in the world but I'd take Baros over Crouch any day.

mac monkey · Post by **mac monkey** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:48 am 0

Guru-Meditation wrote: Heard this on the radio : "The sale of Baros will not go towards Owen but will fund the purchase of Crouch."

Blimey *_* He's not the greatest striker in the world but I'd take Baros over Crouch any day.

Well on last nights performance i would put alot of people in the Liverpool squad well behind Baros, particularly Mr Morientes!!!
When is this man gonna start scoring all these goals we were promised

Has his name gone before him, and he's just not trying?
I know we won and everything, and the squad wasn't our 1st eleven, but bloody hell, we were so damn ordinary without key players, which is quite frightening really.

Going on last season, with all those injuries, if the same was to happen again, with the biggest team in the Premiership, thats the amount of depth we have in this vast squad!!.....well i'm sorry to say,were buggered

mac monkey · Post by **mac monkey** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:04 am 0

.....sorry for the double post, but, just been speaking to my boss & he's good mates with MO's dad, and was talking to him last night, Real want Owen to see out 1 full year with the squad, which is up any day now, and Owen will be back at Liverpool next week on loan.
Can believe it if you want, he told me (Boss) via MO's dad, Owen was off to Real long before deal was done, last season.So could be some truth in it.

Personally will only believe it when i see him in the red shirt again(not manu, zoot)

fog · Post by **fog** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:36 am 0

i8manx wrote:.....sorry for the double post, but, just been speaking to my boss & he's good mates with MO's dad, and was talking to him last night, Real want Owen to see out 1 full year with the squad, which is up any day now, and Owen will be back at Liverpool next week on loan.
Can believe it if you want, he told me (Boss) via MO's dad, Owen was off to Real long before deal was done, last season.So could be some truth in it.

Personally will only believe it when i see him in the red shirt again(not manu, zoot)

That's the story on the news this morning. Failing that he's agreed to a years loan at Newcastle. I'm off to church now to pray.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:49 am 0

That's cheery news to go to bed with.

"Yeah, I suppose as I'm desperate, if I really must, as a last resort, I suppose I can turn out for them. But only on loan, mind. For a year. That's it."

Nowt like having committed players in your team.

With our squad being what it is, I'd still lie on broken glass and let him walk on me to get to St. James' at the minute, though!

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:49 am 0

Was at Anfield last night and yeah that was disappointing all right. CissÃ© just seemed to be constantly in an offside postion. You could see Sossoko/Hamann looking to make the passs then check before he got flagged. Move breaks down and that's that.

Positive for me was Sissoko's contribution. Not the finished article but he's developing into a bit of an enforcer which was nice. Morientes still looks off the pace. I can't help thinking that an MO presence might have converted some of those second half chances. Having said that, I was really surprised that CSKA appeared to be happy to hold on to 1-0. They did nothing really after the frist couple of mintuies fo the second half.

Some of their fans were spectacularly drunk though which made me smile