Hurricane Thread

[Rambozo]

Except that we can't affect shit. Their commandments become my laws, simply because there are far more of them than of us.

And nor, has been pointed out, could most of those whose houses have just been washed away.

They could leave.

But why are they less fortunate?

Because there's 20ft of water above their bedrooms, perhaps...?

Ah, misunderstanding. Thought you were going a different direction with that one.

Your 'me me me' whining has more in common with the people you want to decry than you can imagine.

Someone already tried that.

I'd imagine their thought process went something like this:

"I've got it! I'll be all like "Yeah? Well you're just like the group that you profess to hate!" and then he'll be all like "NNNOOOOOOO!!!!!" hahaha, how am I so smart??".

And I see it in every goddamn argument, regardless of topic and regardless of who is arguing and what they've said.

It is the secular equivalent of "I'll pray for you."

[teamonkey]

What's the name of that disaster emergency charity again?

[Governmentyard]

Right, as this is my thread I'll say a couple of things.

Firstly, for fuck's sake fucking chill the fuck out you fucking fuckers, ok?

I mean, come on, most of you are probably able to get some weed and smoke it, right? Why not do that, stroke a pet or woman or pet woman and bloody relax.

Secondly, there's some good rational debate and some strong emotional twitch reactions on here. On both sides of the arguments. But the people who are annoyed with Rambozo and Matrix are now at the point where they are starting to wind themselves up by continuing, as those two will carry on defending themselves for as long as they like.

I hadn't looked at this thread since before the storm hit New Oleans (and, you know.... fuck me. That's a lot of bloody water.) but the most amazing thing isn't that the arguments have started at all it is that I look at the people involved and there's a lot of people, regular faces who have stayed the hell out of this thread. Why? Because they are a fuck sight more intelligent than anyone of us in here. So I'll not revisit this one again.

And for future reference when I begin a thread about anything that might be going on in the world it will generally be intended for the purpose of posting in wide eyed astonishment at the crazy high-jinks life throws at us as a planet, species or website full of geeks.

Get high, everyone... you fucking need it.

And if you feel sad about the people fucked over by this event then light a candle, make a wish for them and think bloody hard about it for ten minutes as you watch the flame. A little pagan problem solver that ritual. Give it a try.

[Rambozo]

Right, as this is my thread I'll say a couple of things.

Firstly, for fuck's sake fucking chill the fuck out you fucking fuckers, ok?

Where have I attacked someone?

I mean, come on, most of you are probably able to get some weed and smoke it, right? Why not do that, stroke a pet or woman or pet woman and bloody relax.

I don't do drugs, she is working tonight, and my dog is dead.

Secondly, there's some good rational debate and some strong emotional twitch reactions on here. On both sides of the arguments. But the people who are annoyed with Rambozo and Matrix are now at the point where they are starting to wind themselves up by continuing, as those two will carry on defending themselves for as long as they like.

Calmly, you might note. Mine is an easily defensible position. Not all hatred is blind or unjustifiable. There are times when it is an appropriate response, though not everyone hates the same things.

I hadn't looked at this thread since before the storm hit New Oleans (and, you know.... fuck me. That's a lot of bloody water.) but the most amazing thing isn't that the arguments have started at all it is that I look at the people involved and there's a lot of people, regular faces who have stayed the hell out of this thread. Why? Because they are a fuck sight more intelligent than anyone of us in here. So I'll not revisit this one again.

I wouldn't call it intelligence (although I do not mean to imply that they are not intelligent, merely that the act of declining to join an emotionally charged discussion is necessarily intelligent). Some people are uncomfortable discussing things of this nature, especially when said discussion is likely to 'get ugly'. I, on the other hand, am not uncomfortable with it at all.

And for future reference when I begin a thread about anything that might be going on in the world it will generally be intended for the purpose of posting in wide eyed astonishment at the crazy high-jinks life throws at us as a planet, species or website full of geeks.

That sort of thing is certainly more threadworthy than multiple pages of people failing to realize the irony of hating me for my beliefs, which entail hating other people for their beliefs.

Get high, everyone... you fucking need it.

I don't doubt that, but I will never take drugs. It's personal.

And if you feel sad about the people fucked over by this event then light a candle, make a wish for them and think bloody hard about it for ten minutes as you watch the flame. A little pagan problem solver that ritual. Give it a try.

What problems does it solve, exactly? I'm genuinely curious.

[Governmentyard]

I'm not responding to that, it is far too silly. If you don't like drugs maybe have some cake. Or ride a bicycle.

[Governmentyard]

Oh and sorry about your dog

[Rambozo]

From ridicule to empathy in a single post. I am astounded.


Oh and by the way, it was not a plea for pity. I still miss my dog very much, but she did not die recently. It was perhaps a year or two ago.

[TheGoodbyeGirl]

Umm could we stop with the bitching and whinging please, people died thats all we need to know, not what religion they were or what colour or anything else for that matter. They are dead.

As my mum always says If you cant say anything nice, dont say anything at all.

[JB Lars]

You hate rapists, right? And Nazis? And pederasts?

::sigh:: Godwin'ed. You lose.

You do not understand Godwin's law. I was demonstrating that some things are okay to hate, not comparing YOU to a Nazi, as per the law. It also doesn't state that the one making the comparison autmatically loses, merely that the longer an online discussion goes on, the higher the probability that Nazis/Hitler/the Holocaust will enter into the discussion.

You are an idiot who uses terms that you don't even completely understand. Get the hell out.

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 (i.e. certainty).

Correct, the law states that a comparison involving Nazis will invariably enter the discussion. Which you did.

You don't lose because Godwin says so, you lose because I say so.

[Rambozo]

You don't lose because Godwin says so, you lose because I say so.

Umm could we stop with the bitching and whinging please

[WHITAKER]

I don't post here often these days, and am shocked to find some of the content of this thread.

Rambozo and Matrix, you really don't deserve to be part of this online group. At least Matrix seems to have had the sense to shut up.

People are dying through no fault of their own. Have some respect.

[WHITAKER]

Some news sites:

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html

[Matrixxx]

The good sense to shut up - why is that good sense ? - because you dont want me to speak ? Ahh, youre in america - ok the last bit of this post is for you whittaker....

Ok, my lastpost in this thread goes as follows - do try to keep up. I'll reference some prior comments as I go.

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Ya know what, I hate drugs, I despise them. And I think anyone who has to get high to have a good time is frankly fucked in the head and shouldnt be throwing stones at other peoples beliefs, either positive or negative.

Drugs, sad lifestyle really.

We live in a world of intollerance of independant thought, where that thought is not a part of the peer group. We also drive our society towards what I call OVER-Political correctness. Ok so my views are controversial - so what. And although he has his reaons, you should respect Rambozo's right to air his thoughts and grievences as he respects your right to do the same.

If you care so much about "people" and about their "deaths" - why is there no "800 iraqi's die in stampede" thread ? - i'll tell you why - because you dont give a shit.... so dont come at me with all the holier than thou routine. It doesnt wash.

I have no respect for bullies, (he says being branded several times as tarring all americans with the same brush no matter which way they voted). I have no doubt that those of you here who supported the war in Iraq laughed at the screen and cried in joy at the lightshow that was Shock & Awe.... but did any of you consider that in doing so, you tarred them with the same disrespect ? innocents and insurgence alike.

Stones, glass houses etc .... some of you really should stop and think about your own actions before casting stones, Id be amazed if you found out you actually HAVENT done in the past, what you are today screaming at others for.

Building a city in a basin near the sea, surrounded on 3 sides by water, with sea levels rising is a daft idea no matter how you look at it. Water is bound to come in - independant thought and assessment can be SO important at times instead of going off the cliffs with the rest of the lemmings.

Moreso, you think this is bad now - when they have rebuilt, and the sea levels rise to what on an engineering standpoint becomes a pointless battle - then you'll see bad. Persistance isnt always what its cracked upto be.

Now whether you like it or not, america has drawn a lot of hatred into itself over the last 2 years - security has never been tighter, paranoia has never been higher, and your president has never been as unpopular as he is today. Can you honestly say things are better ?

Ya cant stomp all over this sad little planet trying to own it all and expect sympathy when you have your own disaster scale events. People are just getting as they dont give a damn. So if youre looking to place blame, look at the american political system and the people running it; and dont be surprised when negative comments about not carring begin to surface.

Lifes shit, we're all part of it - get used to it and stop taking things personally.

Oh ya, and the flag is still a freekin daft idea, why ? because quite frankly, nobody gives a damn that its there - theres too much more important stuff going on around them.

Now why dont some of you self-richeous types get off your butts and do something useful instead of attacking peoples point of view. Get on a train, in a car, go down there for the weekend and help out instead of sitting at home playing computer games secure in the knowledge youve told others how to go fuck themselves because you dissagree with them.

Go on, go down there... Id be amazed if anyone here actually made the effort and put their money where their mouth is.

[Rambozo]

Rambozo and Matrix, you really don't deserve to be part of this online group.

That's really not for you to decide. If you like, you could PM Yak and beg him to ban us for having opinions that offend you.

[Ratsoap]

Ever see that epsisode of 'Scrubs' where that doctor is speaking and all he says is 'I'm a tool, I'm a tool, I'm complete and utter tool'?