Nah. Had a great day. VLM-2 is an extraordinary thing.ophion wrote:Wow, where did that one come from? I guess dtj had a bad day. No need to go act like an idiot on a public forum, though.
Actually, saying it isn't is just accurate, but I am glad that someone got some pleasure out of the Nuon debacle. The Jag VLM remains fantastic, BTW. Perhaps we just have extremely different taste in visualizations.dtj wrote:
Nah. Had a great day. VLM-2 is an extraordinary thing.
Saying it isn't is just bait.
'twas the first I had heard of someone liking it. As you say, there's no accounting for taste. My wife and I became utter VLM fiends on the Jag. When I brought home the Nuon, we excitedly turned it on and readied the lineup from frenetic to super moody. After a few minutes, she was asking "Is something wrong with it?" and "Why is everything so chunky and blurry?" I shrugged and suggested we try flipping through all of the effects to find those that were not so; it never happened. All of them were "chunky and blurry" and a bit sick-making to watch. We then thought that at least we would have a great DVD player, having bought in somewhat to the Nuon hype (you know, all the "even if the games don't sell any units, we'll still be number one because our chip and software environment provide the best DVD playback experience" stuff).Yak wrote:Well, that's the first time I've actually heard of anyone not liking VLM-2.
No accounting for taste I s'pose.
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), and I expect to continue to do so in the future. Your proto-VLM work on the 'Cube is delicious, and I follow the Unity talk eagerly. The Nuon era, however, is a sad chapter for me, especially considering you were treated a bit poorly when it finally came to its inevitable, stuttering end.well. not the only bait - any conversation about the great and mighty Microsoft and their highly desirable console. you'll bite on that too....dtj wrote:Nah. Had a great day. VLM-2 is an extraordinary thing.ophion wrote:Wow, where did that one come from? I guess dtj had a bad day. No need to go act like an idiot on a public forum, though.
Saying it isn't is just bait.
In fact, it's the only bait I'll ever take a bit juicy bite of. I'll take anyone down who slams VLM-2.
Well, I've demonstrated it personally to one hell of a lot of people, and as I said, this is the first time I have heard of anyone not liking it. One can't please everyone all the time, but I'm happy enough with those stats.ophion wrote:'twas the first I had heard of someone liking it.Yak wrote:Well, that's the first time I've actually heard of anyone not liking VLM-2.
No accounting for taste I s'pose.
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Ahem. Well, yes.stark wrote:well. not the only bait - any conversation about the great and mighty Microsoft and their highly desirable console. you'll bite on that too....
Do you still have the machine? There's a firmware upgrade for it that you can burn to a CDR and flash the NVRAM. That will fix the stuttering and synch problems that should have been caught in their test labs. There's a link to it at http://www.nuon-dome.com if you're willing to give it a try.ophion wrote:However, it turned out to be the absolute worst of the four players we'd had, suffering from skipping and a the terrible sync problem noted earlier; online reports, we soon discovered, confirmed that our unit was not uniquely defective--they were all like that (speaking of the specific Samsung model, here). We had invited friends around for dinner to check out our new light show. They were just as disappointed. All of the Jag folks I knew who had been eagerly watching the (glacial) Nuon developments felt the same way and drifted off of the newsgroups and forums once confronted with the evidence.
Nah, we returned it for a refund after about a week. I bought a great stonking HDTV (on which VLM-2 would look even chunkier--aaarrgh!) and went progressive scan a few months later, so there's no going back anyway.Flojomojo wrote:Do you still have the machine? There's a firmware upgrade for it that you can burn to a CDR and flash the NVRAM. That will fix the stuttering and synch problems that should have been caught in their test labs. There's a link to it at http://www.nuon-dome.com if you're willing to give it a try.
Erm haven't the VLM's been done at "raves' etc? Surely out of the vast number of peeps there not everyone is polite?? (not at the raves/parties I've been to anyway)ophion wrote:Perhaps they are being "polite." Actually, I think VLM-2 would look fine when projected on a large wall or screen, as long as the viewer stood at two hundred paces, anyway.
