Year five billion tech and a passion for retro. Remember the comment about nostaligia for Earth? That covers most things.
The deal with Cassandra is she believes she's the last *pure* human. She's not really. She's just a bigot. The human race has spread to the stars and exists in many different forms. Some obviously still look human but to Cassadra's eyes still aren't pure. Rose is pure since she comes from a period before we made the leap to the stars.
Seriously. In the year 5 billion they could make their tech look like anything. The lift cable may have looked like a lift cable but was probably a hard light forcefield construct or some other techno bollocks Never underestimate the power of retro. The main point to remember though is it doesn't matter. It's just a place to hang a story. New Doctor Who isn't about the sci-fi tech any more. It's about telling a good story.
"Why is technology so crap 5 *billion* years into the future? Lifts with cables? 70s telephone booths? LCD screens? "
Simple, you can only work with what you have unless you lob in some CGI, and then it would look terribly overused if they resorted to that for every visual obstacle. In this case it reminded me about how UFO & Space 1999 used to look to the future, with reel to reel computer banks, rounded CRT monitors and old style telephones.
Off topic slightly, how well done was that cat makeup eh awesome stuff !! Then, a thought occurs.... if this is the face of bo, what happened to the rest of him ? hmmm...
"Never underestimate the power of retro"
"New Doctor Who isn't about the sci-fi tech any more. It's about telling a good story."
- Amen to that H'
HGFB wrote:Year five billion tech and a passion for retro. Remember the comment about nostaligia for Earth? That covers most things.
The deal with Cassandra is she believes she's the last *pure* human. She's not really. She's just a bigot. The human race has spread to the stars and exists in many different forms. Some obviously still look human but to Cassadra's eyes still aren't pure. Rose is pure since she comes from a period before we made the leap to the stars.
Seriously. In the year 5 billion they could make their tech look like anything. The lift cable may have looked like a lift cable but was probably a hard light forcefield construct or some other techno bollocks Never underestimate the power of retro. The main point to remember though is it doesn't matter. It's just a place to hang a story. New Doctor Who isn't about the sci-fi tech any more. It's about telling a good story.
well, thought it was completely gash..
awful story/genre/plot re-hashes-day of the dead 'zombies' for fucks sake. a real lack of imagination in that first episode, and i doubt its going to get any better.. who's bloody responsible for writing this thing!?
I'm really not going to judge the whole series and Tennant on this one episode. This series is not going to be any different to the first one - it will have good and not so good episodes. People will hate certain characters/actors, others will love them. But all in all, I'm sure there will be some fun to be had along the way.
I'll be less forgiving if the cybermen episode is cack.
That episode was exactly how I expected it. Rushed, clumsy and aimless. The production team are using the nasty trick of sticking in the odd bit of pretty fluff ('chav' jokes, Billy Piper farting about) to distract away from the stupid, broken miasma of twattery that made up 99% of the episode. David Tenant also seems to be confusing 'acting' with 'acting like a bipolar crackhead', and 'emotive delivery of lines' with 'shouting'.
I remember when Doctor Who was about the process of discovery, the pleasure of watching the Doctor and his assistants slowly making sense of some strange and sinister scenario and eventually saving the day by using their brains.
They managed just one truly good story last series (The Empty Child) and I just hope whoever wrote that has penned a few episodes for this series. One thing that's becoming increasingly apparent is that Russel T. Davis can't write for shit.
Well, having read this thread I torrented with some trepidation, but actually I was pleasantly surprised. There were some completely moronic plot devices, but then I can't think of an Eccleston episode which didn't have those too - even the "good" ones. It's hard to just let them go, and I find myself mentally re-writing the bits that don't quite make sense as I watch! But, crucially, at no point was I any less than thoroughly entertained.
Atty wrote:David Tenant also seems to be confusing 'acting' with 'acting like a bipolar crackhead', and 'emotive delivery of lines' with 'shouting'.
I totally agree on this, I think the doctor should shout very rarely. But then, I found Eccleston's ranty bits just as embarrasing. Overall I found Tenant slightly less jarring in the role, and it's early days yet.
Loved it, as usual. Really warming to Tennant as the Doctor, no worries whatsoever so far. He seems to do the 'Angry Doctor', "I'm the Doctor, I rule, what you gonna do about it?" thing very well, (perhaps since being in that wife beating drama or whatever it was) as well as the 'sad Doctor' bit that Chris did so well (like when talking to the Face of..Bo?)
I wonder if that's total closure for Cassandra or if we'll see her again. Zoe Wanamaker seems like the type to come back, either as Cassandra during another time or her daughter/mother or something.
The 'zombie' thing was a bit of a cliche... they did it in Ep1 (the mannequins), as well as the zombies in a very early episode and the "are you my mummy" thing later on. But it had its unique sides I guess.
Like last time, a slightly weak start but as emotional as ever and I'm sure it'll get more involved soon.
benedictw wrote:Anyone spot the recycled scenery from Ep1 of last season? Them going down some rickity stairs that I'm pretty sure was the same stairs the big-plastic-auton beast was under.
Ahh that's nothing. I've just been watching repeats of Blake's 7. They visit the same quarry and/or disused factory every episode
Speaking of recycling, one of the cat-nuns near the beginning - I think the first one they met - wasn't she the wooden tree-lady from the first Cassandra Episode? That's what I thought anyway. IMDB or some other source may prove me wrong
Never underestimate the power of retro. 
The main point to remember though is it doesn't matter. It's just a place to hang a story. New Doctor Who isn't about the sci-fi tech any more. It's about telling a good story.
