Kemper_Boyd wrote:
The sad thing is that people will put up with this because of the nostalgia
factor but if this was a new programme I bet there'd be fewer people
watching. .
I watch it because I enjoy it week in week out.
Absolutely nothing to do with "nostalgia factor", thanks.
Kemper_Boyd wrote:
The sad thing is that people will put up with this because of the nostalgia
factor but if this was a new programme I bet there'd be fewer people
watching. .
I watch it because I enjoy it week in week out.
Absolutely nothing to do with "nostalgia factor", thanks.
I've been a Doctor Who fan since Tom Baker picked up Leela (Or there abouts). I'm 33 if you want to work out how old I was.
I watched even when John Nathan Turner turned my fave show into a pantomime and got it cancelled.
During the 16 year absence (Ignoring the one off movie) I feasted on a diet of Virgin New Adventures and then BBC New Adventure novels. Now finally I have Doctor Who back.
You know what? I just can't watch the old stuff anymore. It's just so dull, dry, slow and badly acted. If I had to sit through 4 weeks of 25 minute episode padding I'd go fucking insane. I like the new show because it's not the classic series. If I don't much care for a story (New Earth) I only have to wait until the next week to get a different one.
Sure there's nostalgia involved but that's only the minority. What about the other 7 million tuning in every week? What about the kids who are watching it for the first time and loving it? Watch Totally Doctor Who sometime and see what I mean.
I like what I like. I don't need people telling me I'm "putting up" with anything. If I didn't like the show I wouldn't watch it.
HGFB wrote:I've been a Doctor Who fan since Tom Baker picked up Leela (Or there abouts). I'm 33 if you want to work out how old I was.
I watched even when John Nathan Turner turned my fave show into a pantomime and got it cancelled.
During the 16 year absence (Ignoring the one off movie) I feasted on a diet of Virgin New Adventures and then BBC New Adventure novels. Now finally I have Doctor Who back.
You know what? I just can't watch the old stuff anymore. It's just so dull, dry, slow and badly acted. If I had to sit through 4 weeks of 25 minute episode padding I'd go fucking insane. I like the new show because it's not the classic series. If I don't much care for a story (New Earth) I only have to wait until the next week to get a different one.
Sure there's nostalgia involved but that's only the minority. What about the other 7 million tuning in every week? What about the kids who are watching it for the first time and loving it? Watch Totally Doctor Who sometime and see what I mean.
I like what I like. I don't need people telling me I'm "putting up" with anything. If I didn't like the show I wouldn't watch it.
I know what you mean. It's a different animal to the classic series. The name and concept are the same but the approach is much more modern. I'm an unashamed Tom Baker fan. There were many episodes (mostly later ones) that were badly-written and unimaginative but he was always watchable. The problem I had with later Doctors (and the 80's in general) is that IMO the actors playing the Doctor lacked the pure charisma. I feel that the show should have ended in the very early 80's because the BBC simply couldn't fund a show like Doctor Who. Compared to the US imports around that time, the show looked cheap and tacky. JMT tried to keep the show looking modern but it was an unattainable goal with the minuscule BBC budget.
The new stories are more in line with US show times (45 minutes) and the wider availability of CG technology and the cost reduction of filming in Cardiff means that it looks much more convincing than it ever did.
Ironically, I really enjoy the Big Finish audio plays. Most of the writing is very good and there are no budgetary contraints. I can also see what a great Doctor Colin Baker would have been with the right scripts and how Paul McGann was criminally underused.
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Agree totally. The audio adventures show just how good Colin and Paul could have been if they were given a real chance. Hell. Listen to He Jests at Scars and see Bonnie Langford at her finest. After that audio I liked the character.
HGFB wrote:Agree totally. The audio adventures show just how good Colin and Paul could have been if they were given a real chance. Hell. Listen to He Jests at Scars and see Bonnie Langford at her finest. After that audio I liked the character.
I AM ZAGREUS!
The funny thing is that if I HADN'T listened to any of them, I would have thought "bollocks!"
Two things Bonnie Langford and Colin Baker have in common? JNT.
One thing though - I definitely think that Nick Courtney should do a new Who
Sealed with a curse as sharp as a knife. Doomed is your soul and damned is your life.
The only thing I hate about the new series is that it caused the BBC to cancel the novel range so it didn't clash with the new books based on the current Doc. Fuckers. It wouldn't be so bad if the new books weren't written for retarded 8 year olds.
HGFB wrote:The only thing I hate about the new series is that it caused the BBC to cancel the novel range so it didn't clash with the new books based on the current Doc. Fuckers. It wouldn't be so bad if the new books weren't written for retarded 8 year olds.
I take it that they are doing official spin-off's rather than "out-of-canon" material? I wonder if the same fate will happen to Big Finish?
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Kemper_Boyd wrote:The sad thing is that people will put up with this because of the nostalgia factor but if this was a new programme I bet there'd be fewer people watching.
Sorry Kemper but you are way, way off on that point.
I never liked the 'old' Doctor Who. I watched it (because it was Sci-fi on telly and I took what I could) but I never really enjoyed it. I'm loving the new series and the odd thing is, part of what I love about it is it's love of it's own history. But it's not nostalgia. That implies that the creators want to turn back the clock, to make the old Doctor Who just the way it was, which they clearly don't. Notice how many of the elements and characters that are brought from the old series have all been changed slightly, life has changed us and it has also changed them.
Kemper_Boyd wrote:The sad thing is that people will put up with this because of the nostalgia factor but if this was a new programme I bet there'd be fewer people watching.
Sorry Kemper but you are way, way off on that point.
I never liked the 'old' Doctor Who. I watched it (because it was Sci-fi on telly and I took what I could) but I never really enjoyed it. I'm loving the new series and the odd thing is, part of what I love about it is it's love of it's own history. But it's not nostalgia. That implies that the creators want to turn back the clock, to make the old Doctor Who just the way it was, which they clearly don't. Notice how many of the elements and characters that are brought from the old series have all been changed slightly, life has changed us and it has also changed them.
Which is the antithesis of nostalgia.
Not to mention the fact that I've only encountered nostalgia for the old series in those who like the new series the least..
Well maybe it was the nostalgia factor, but that isn't such a problem for me because I enjoyed that. Particularly happy sad ending. The school stuff was a bit of a 'heard it all before' plot, but it wasn't really important to me - the main stuff about Sarah Jane was really well written I thought.
