The Dr Who thread

Arv · Post by **Arv** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:40 am 0

5/7 for me
0/5 for the next one
Did the last one and released the code... yay

Kronos · Post by **Kronos** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:06 am 0

HGFB wrote:I've been a Doctor Who fan since Tom Baker picked up Leela (Or there abouts). I'm 33 if you want to work out how old I was.

I watched even when John Nathan Turner turned my fave show into a pantomime and got it cancelled.

During the 16 year absence (Ignoring the one off movie) I feasted on a diet of Virgin New Adventures and then BBC New Adventure novels. Now finally I have Doctor Who back.

You know what? I just can't watch the old stuff anymore. It's just so dull, dry, slow and badly acted. If I had to sit through 4 weeks of 25 minute episode padding I'd go fucking insane. I like the new show because it's not the classic series. If I don't much care for a story (New Earth) I only have to wait until the next week to get a different one.

Sure there's nostalgia involved but that's only the minority. What about the other 7 million tuning in every week? What about the kids who are watching it for the first time and loving it? Watch Totally Doctor Who sometime and see what I mean.

I like what I like. I don't need people telling me I'm "putting up" with anything. If I didn't like the show I wouldn't watch it.

im not a dr who fan really, used to watch the occasional episode of each doctor but no way am i a fan (except for the blonde in the pink coat with tom baker w00t w00t she was hot!!

). funny thing is, if the new dr who had started with tennant i would have switched off and never bothered again after about 3 episodes. its funny but for me the best dr was and always will be eccleston because he was different without being weird looking (like baker). no no no tennant is a n00b a little prick and im sorry i stand by my comment he is a BAD choice for doctor. the fact the bbc love him is no suprise or not flattering as the whole of the bbc are fucking idiots nowadays anyway (sooner they have to pay their way the better!!)

most people watching dr who now are nothing to do with that pipsqueek of a doctor now, they watched the new series last yr and theyre STILL DECIDING if its shit or not right now as its aired. it was a stroke of luck to get eccleston to do the new series, and he got them off to a flying start. somehow i dont see dr who being on in 4 yrs time the way the new series and his style is going sorry

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:44 am 0

After reading that I'm speechless. You don't play Counterstrike do you?

Stevo · Post by **Stevo** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:51 am 0

Snakey wrote:[

But I think what gribbles meant is that the Doc seemed to know this all of a sudden. Maybe the cut a bit out somewhere, but at no point did Rose mention this to him. Whats been a bit weak so far this season is the Doc just saying "Of course!" and having the answer immediately. No build up, no 'working it out' - he just magically has the answer.

I just watched the season 1 episode "Parting of the Ways" when
Eccleston comes back to the spacestation from his encounter with
the Daleks he knows how to defeat them......With Delta waves.....
No build up, no 'working it out' - he just magically has the answer.

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:00 am 0

HGFB wrote:After reading that I'm speechless. You don't play Counterstrike do you?

arron · Post by **arron** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:44 am 0

I was stuck in traffic on Saturday when Dr Who was on, so I had a great time..

I'm beginning to think that they should pull the plug on the whole thing now in the second series before they cause any more damage, and replace the entire writing and production team before they crash the whole thing into a wall where it can never be repaired. When you see what they've done with things and you think "Jeez, I'm not working in television, but even I could do with a better job writing this show with a script like that.." then you have to wonder what is going on.

The new format seems incredibly rushed, they need more two parters to help pace the story better. It's not a budget thing either, I could have set more engaging stories in quarries.

They need more credible dialogue and plot devices that don't wind up crashing into the story at a moments notice and taking over like a headcrab shell. So far it's been all show and no substance. Get some people in who know how science fiction works, or at least a rudimentary grip on science..instead of making it up as they go along.

You look back at stories like "Pyramids of Mars" and "Genesis of the Daleks" and you wonder where they went so wrong with the opportunities they've had so far in the last two series..

kalmar · Post by **kalmar** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:59 am 0

Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:
HGFB wrote:
gribbles wrote:I **hated** the fact that they pulled the whole 'poison oil' out of the hat completely on the spur of the moment to solve the problem of killing the beasties this week. Lazy, lazy, lazy writing.
Err no. That was telegraphed right near the start in the kitchen when Rose saw it get spilled onto one of the dinner lady aliens. The Doc didn't just make it up at the end.
Ah yes.. the oil...

How come that when Tennant was asking questions in the classroom, only the one kid answered him if they'd all been eating the chips covered in this stuff that makes them all brainy to be able to crack the code?

And what happened to that kid (Milo?) - did he get eaten or something, I must have missed it.

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:04 am 0

arron wrote: You look back at stories like "Pyramids of Mars" and "Genesis of the Daleks" and you wonder where they went so wrong with the opportunities they've had so far in the last two series..

Well that was the apparent 'golden age' of Doctor Who with Philip Hinchcliffe as producer. He's still living so maybe someone could persuade him to take over the reins from RTD?

For all his Doctor Who writing faults I'd say that RTD has done a pretty good job as Producer, but it would certainly be nice if the series had more 'edge'.

I still loved 'School Reunion' though. Some lovely characters moments and some genuine emotional warmth which has seemingly be largely absent from the new series.

Post by **Snakey** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:10 am 0

Stevo wrote:
Snakey wrote:[

But I think what gribbles meant is that the Doc seemed to know this all of a sudden. Maybe the cut a bit out somewhere, but at no point did Rose mention this to him. Whats been a bit weak so far this season is the Doc just saying "Of course!" and having the answer immediately. No build up, no 'working it out' - he just magically has the answer.
I just watched the season 1 episode "Parting of the Ways" when
Eccleston comes back to the spacestation from his encounter with
the Daleks he knows how to defeat them......With Delta waves.....
No build up, no 'working it out' - he just magically has the answer.

Yeah there is. There's a massive build up. He even eventually gets captain jack to guess what he's trying to do.

kalmar · Post by **kalmar** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:25 am 0

Zoot wrote: And it was even acer that SJS and K-9 walked off together just like it was perfectly normal to have a robot dog in 2006 (I mean it was in 2004, but that is so passe now, don'tcha think?)

Nah that was ace. Reminded me of the end of the second series of Spaced.

Stevo · Post by **Stevo** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:28 am 0

Snakey wrote:
Stevo wrote:
Snakey wrote:[

But I think what gribbles meant is that the Doc seemed to know this all of a sudden. Maybe the cut a bit out somewhere, but at no point did Rose mention this to him. Whats been a bit weak so far this season is the Doc just saying "Of course!" and having the answer immediately. No build up, no 'working it out' - he just magically has the answer.
I just watched the season 1 episode "Parting of the Ways" when
Eccleston comes back to the spacestation from his encounter with
the Daleks he knows how to defeat them......With Delta waves.....
No build up, no 'working it out' - he just magically has the answer.
Yeah there is. There's a massive build up. He even eventually gets captain jack to guess what he's trying to do.

What build up.......10 seconds of Guess what I am doing

Post by **Snakey** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:29 am 0

He runs about like a mad thing trying to find what he needs first - anyways, not the point - 10 seconds is still a lot more than "Of course!"

Stevo · Post by **Stevo** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:32 am 0

Snakey wrote:He runs about like a mad thing trying to find what he needs first - anyways, not the point - 10 seconds is still a lot more than "Of course!"

True

Elk · Post by **Elk** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:18 pm 0

PVB wrote:
oddbob0 wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote: The sad thing is that people will put up with this because of the nostalgia
factor but if this was a new programme I bet there'd be fewer people
watching. .
I watch it because I enjoy it week in week out.

Absolutely nothing to do with "nostalgia factor", thanks.
Same here.

Yep .. same with me... I enjoy it so I watch it!

Elk · Post by **Elk** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:21 pm 0

HGFB wrote:The only thing I hate about the new series is that it caused the BBC to cancel the novel range so it didn't clash with the new books based on the current Doc. Fuckers. It wouldn't be so bad if the new books weren't written for retarded 8 year olds.

I'm reading Doctor Who Short Trips: The Muses...

Its very adult in nature. I love it! "Im going down down" sings one character about the woman he his having an affair with.

I loved the novels about the Old docs as they were written from an adult perspective...