MacBook

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Wed May 17, 2006 7:50 pm 0

Yes for God's sake used matched pairs otherwise you'll disable memory
interleaving and halve your bandwidth, and when you are sharing that
with the graphics chip it's not something you want to do.

skweek · Post by **skweek** » Wed May 17, 2006 7:51 pm 0

Secret Vampire wrote: Checking crucials website, it seems 2x512 is cheaper anyway, by about Â£10. Strangely it's also cheaper to buy 2 512MB modules as opposed to a kit containing 2 512MB modules.

Kits are matched pairs though.

Secret Vampire · Post by **Secret Vampire** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:01 pm 0

skweek wrote:
Secret Vampire wrote: Checking crucials website, it seems 2x512 is cheaper anyway, by about Â£10. Strangely it's also cheaper to buy 2 512MB modules as opposed to a kit containing 2 512MB modules.
Kits are matched pairs though.

No more so than a couple of modules pulled of the shelf are matched, it's not like with analogue stuff where you need to match things fairly closely for optimum performance, either they meet spec and work together, or they don't.
So long as they're the same size speed and arrangement, they'll work together as an interleaved pair, even if they're from different manufacturers.

In theory at least

but a pair of modules ordered at the same time from crucial will not be a problem. there's only Â£1 in it anyway, just thought it was odd that they were charging more for the pair.

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:17 pm 0

Our reliable Japanese friends have disassembled a MacBook.
http://www.kodawarisan.com/macbook/macbook001.html

Post by **Snakey** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:45 am 0

goldfish wrote:I suspect the sanctions against those who Leek ( ) are pretty strong...

Simon

Well, various sites on t3h internets DO seem to know about all this stuff way before it appears. Gotta come from somewhere.

But yeah, the reason why its all 'rumour' and theres no specs etc. is probably fairly obvious, when you walk into an apple certified retailer the day before some new system comes out, and they're happily selling the previous, about-to-be-outdated, models, at the same price they ever were... They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they leaked anything.

Actually a couple of the places round here are even worse than that. Three whole days after the intel Macbook Pro was released, I went into both the Apple places near here to have a look. No sign of them anywhere. So I asked. Yeah, we've got them out the back. Do you want one?

Heh - so if you KNOW about them you can buy one, but if you don't, they'll happily sell you the older stuff instead. Cunts

What pissed me off more than that though, is that when all the new stuff WAS in the stores, they'd sell the older stuff at "special clearance price" - $50 off what they cost before. The previous model iMacs were MORE EXPENSIVE than the new ones. FFS.

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:54 am 0

Ha ha Snakey, that's nothing, it's routine to go into PC World and see
Macs that are months out of date and more expensive still on sale.

skweek · Post by **skweek** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:01 am 0

So when do we reckon the Macbook Pros with VT turned on will turn up? Or have I missed something?

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:04 am 0

skweek wrote:So when do we reckon the Macbook Pros with VT turned on will turn up? Or have I missed something?

Ask someone with the Parallels software, it's there now and used AFAIK.

Post by **Snakey** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:05 am 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote:Ha ha Snakey, that's nothing, it's routine to go into PC World and see
Macs that are months out of date and more expensive still on sale.

Yeah, but that's PC World. You EXPECT them to know nothing

So come on then, who's got one?

skweek · Post by **skweek** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:13 am 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote:
skweek wrote:So when do we reckon the Macbook Pros with VT turned on will turn up? Or have I missed something?
Ask someone with the Parallels software, it's there now and used AFAIK.

Oh ace, probably get a 17" one now then.

Will · Post by **Will** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:47 pm 0

I've been wanting to buy a laptop for a while, but I've been waiting until the ibook was updated. I primarily want to use it for coding, and I'll also want to dual boot linux.

What do people reckon? Is the Macbook a good buy, or should I hold off for any reason?

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:08 pm 0

Will wrote:I've been wanting to buy a laptop for a while, but I've been waiting until the ibook was updated. I primarily want to use it for coding, and I'll also want to dual boot linux.

What do people reckon? Is the Macbook a good buy, or should I hold off for any reason?

Unless you need it right now I'd wait for the update to the Core 2 Duo
(Merom). 1) It's 64 bit. 2) It's faster, much faster on SSE for all those
media type tasks. 3) They'll hopefully remove a few gremlins from
the MacBook by then. Apple should be able to start shipping Core 2 Duo
notebooks as soon as August, so it's not even that long a wait.

I think the new MacBook looks like a good deal, but with Merom in it'll
be insanely great.

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:26 am 0

Thanks for the advice

Despite the nature of my question, I'm wary of falling into the just wait for the next upgrade trap. At some point I need to take the plunge and buy.

I'm sure the Macbook will be plenty fast enough for me, so I'm not sure I want to wait just for the Merom. However, I am more concerned about getting a laptop with design issues. Presumably, that means waiting until the next 'revision'. Or perhaps I should hang on for just a few weeks to see if there are any reports of any issues.

Hopefully I can keep my tech lust under control and make a semi-rational purchasing decision.

Post by **Snakey** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:33 am 0

Will wrote:make a semi-rational purchasing decision.

I'm not sure buying a Mac is ever a semi-rational purchasing decision

I can't stand the bloody things and yet I really want one

Steve Jobs is the mind control master.

tufty · Post by **tufty** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:38 am 0

Will wrote:I'm sure the Macbook will be plenty fast enough for me, so I'm not sure I want to wait just for the Merom. However, I am more concerned about getting a laptop with design issues. Presumably, that means waiting until the next 'revision'. Or perhaps I should hang on for just a few weeks to see if there are any reports of any issues.

If you want it for coding, yeah, it's gonna be plenty fast enough. Hell, my 1.42 G4 mac mini is plenty fast enough, and I'm coding on it all day.

I'd certainly wait until the initial gripe reports come out, though.

Simon