The Dr Who thread

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:44 pm 0

Heck, even in 'The End Of The World' last year it was moved or wheeled in the space station.

Kelloggs · Post by **Kelloggs** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:04 pm 0

WiteWulf wrote:I can't remember the TARDIS ever being moved by some external force.

From the book, because I don't remember watching (much of) this particular story, but: in Frontios (Peter Davison's time, I think) the Tractators pulled it under the ground, into their tunnels, by manipulating gravity.

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:08 pm 0

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT, OK?

The TARDIS can moved, point taken. I never it couldn't, just that I couldn't remember it.

Look, I remembered Troughton's whistle!

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:13 pm 0

I seem to recall it being moved by horse and cart in The Crusades too (Or maybe Marco Polo. I hate the historicals)

The "whistle" was a Statenheim remote control only used in The Two Doctors. However the very existence of the Two Doctors brings horrible, long arguments over a possible extra season that fits in between the end of the Troughton era and the beginning of Pertwee. We really don't want to go there. Trust me. It gets violent.

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:14 pm 0

WiteWulf wrote: Look, I remembered Troughton's whistle!

If it helps, I forgot all about Troughton's whistle ..........

My earliest memory of a Troughton episode is the one with the Yetis and the large intelligent metal ball inside each of them .........

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:22 pm 0

Yes...I have very vague recollections of watching reruns of Troughton episodes when I was little. I wondered for years why they only ever seemed to show Pertwee and Baker reruns as I got older (before the advent of UK Gold) and was horrified when I discovered the reason for the lack of Hartnell and Troughton reruns and the whole tape wiping debacle.

I actually spent a long time this afternoon reading through all the stuff on Wikipedia about Doctor Who, trying to remind myself of all the old plot arcs. When I came across the concept of the Cartmel Masterplan I have to admit to being intrigued. Outside of the post '89 novels has this ever been summarised or written down anywhere?

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:34 pm 0

Well I just saw the Impossible Planet. Nice but rather less interesting than the provious one.

It reminded me a bit of Red Dwarf, with the same kind of sets.

The creature from the pit (literally this time) routine has been done to pieces so I hope they find a more original twist to it.

Oh and aren't black holes supposed to be invisible because they even suck up light?

Shame that the nicest looking girl had to be the first to be sucked out of an airlock, it would have spiced up the next episode if she had been around to ogle at. I wouldn't have minded her as the Doctor's next assistant.

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:40 pm 0

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:43 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote: Oh and aren't black holes supposed to be invisible because they even suck up light?

Yes, this was mentioned on Confidental for this episode - the f/x guys went for the 'accurate' scientific look but then 'God' (sorry, RTD I mean) decided that they weren't impressive enough (or words to that effect) and asked for them to be enhanced a bit, citing artistic licence ...........

grue · Post by **grue** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:47 pm 0

IronGiant wrote: Yes, this was mentioned on Confidental for this episode - the f/x guys went for the 'accurate' scientific look but then 'God' (sorry, RTD I mean) decided that they weren't impressive enough (or words to that effect) and asked for them to be enhanced a bit, citing artistic licence ...........

Is there anything he is useful at anyway?

Wibble · Post by **Wibble** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:47 pm 0

IronGiant wrote:
DutchLlama wrote: Oh and aren't black holes supposed to be invisible because they even suck up light?
Yes, this was mentioned on Confidental for this episode - the f/x guys went for the 'accurate' scientific look but then 'God' (sorry, RTD I mean) decided that they weren't impressive enough (or words to that effect) and asked for them to be enhanced a bit, citing artistic licence ...........

Assuming the universe is potentially limitless, there's also a rather large chance that somewhere in this sphere, there would be a black hole which would defy our definition.

So there... stop trying to make Dr Who into a science show

-W

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:48 pm 0

Col wrote:Excellent stuff!

Some bits reminded me a lot of Event Horizon.

BTW your avatar looks like one of those Oodles (or what were they called)?

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:51 pm 0

Driller wrote:Cock! Fucking missed it while watching The Hudsucker Proxy.

Great if weird movie.

So you are forgiven.

Kelloggs · Post by **Kelloggs** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:57 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:Oh and aren't black holes supposed to be invisible because they even suck up light?

No, good question. I seem to remember an oddity about rotating (or maybe non-rotating) black holes. Ah. Accretion discs. Must be rotating ones, then. Doesn't matter; I think it applies anyway. Basically, anything falling through the event horizon whole won't ever be coming back, but anything torn apart by tidal (gravitational) forces before that point can do whatever the hell it feels like. If this includes emitting photons away from the black hole, then so be it, but you'd never see them unless they happened to be aimed at you. So I suspect you could detect some energy output, but unless it's really powerful, like an infalling star, there won't be much.

This is nothing to do with Hawking radiation, by the way. That's quantum mechanics.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:01 pm 0

Hawking radiation is the only known output from black holes.

But that doesnt mean you cant see huge globs of swirly mass just before the event horizon anyway.