The Dr Who thread

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:23 am 0

HGFB wrote:An entire episode of Lexx season 4 was a game of chess between Kai and Prince.

Great, another sci-fi series I never heard of before.

Must. Torrent.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:29 am 0

Viscount Charles wrote:Well, we had an interesting excercise in comparing the old & new at the weekend. My daughter (almost 4) is a big fan of the new Doctor Who - whether it be "scarey robots" (Daleks to the rest of us) or "the delete people" (Cybermen). So, I stuck some classic Tom Baker on (Genesis of the Daleks). Her verdict? "Boring".

That story is a bit too highbrow for a 4 year old.

Try one of the old Dalek and Cyberman serials on her. Or anything with monsters.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:44 am 0

DutchLlama wrote:
HGFB wrote:An entire episode of Lexx season 4 was a game of chess between Kai and Prince.
Great, another sci-fi series I never heard of before.

Must. Torrent.

Indeed you must.

Think of it as a low-budget, incredibly corny version of Farscape.
But then with some darn-cool sci-fi concepts, and complete "freedom" of script constraints.

Driller · Post by **Driller** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:09 am 0

Darkflame wrote:
DutchLlama wrote:
HGFB wrote:An entire episode of Lexx season 4 was a game of chess between Kai and Prince.
Great, another sci-fi series I never heard of before.

Must. Torrent.
Indeed you must.

Think of it as a low-budget, incredibly corny version of Farscape.
But then with some darn-cool sci-fi concepts, and complete "freedom" of script constraints.

And Kai. Don't forget the dead man in black.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:35 am 0

Viscount Charles wrote:My daughter (almost 4) is a big fan of the new Doctor Who - whether it be "scarey robots" (Daleks to the rest of us) or "the delete people" (Cybermen).

You mean the Cybermen were the shortsighted cunts at the BBC who wiped all those old Doctor Who tapes to save a bit of money?

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:24 am 0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx

Lexx was very hit and miss. The first set of TV movies were excellent. Then it became a series. When it's good it's excellent. When it's bad it's terrible. Well worth watching though. It can be very rude

I think I probably enjoyed series 3 the most. All 4 seasons are available on DVD.

SimonB · Post by **SimonB** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:26 am 0

Having given time to consider my response (a blatant lie covering up not being near a computer yesterday...):

Apart from expecting him to try and shag everything following Casanova I like Tennant as the doc so far. OK, so the humans are brilliant stuff is getting a bit tiring, but the sense of travelling to see new things and continually getting excited/interested is great. Especially liked the meeting with the wolf in T&C.

SimonB

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Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:28 am 0

GeeZa wrote:Agreed but I guess it *is* preference. I'm watching the Eccleston season re-runs over here in the US whilst catching up on the Tennant series and much prefer the Eccleston interpretation. Dark, manic and brooding intelligence. If Tennant turned up at my space station unannounced and started prancing around I'd personally nut him one and try and bed Rose. If it was Eccleston I'd hide away in a little dark corner on Stock Deck C and whimper uncontrollably until he gave me my station back.

So is the Doctor someone who strikes fear into those he meets for the first time or does he assume a harmless, disarming eccentricity, only revealing his true power when angered? I would suggest that the latter has been more core to his personality over the years.

Eccleston's performance was good but he was the Doctor at his self-loathing and self-destructive worst. It seems to me that the first season was largely the story of how Rose, and the final destruction of the Daleks, restored him to his usual self.

Darkflame wrote:
Firefox wrote:
HGFB wrote:An entire episode of Lexx season 4 was a game of chess between Kai and Prince.
I remember that one, it was bloody excellent!
Second!
It was one of those key moments that says "screw convention THIS is cool". Wonderful concept, and well executed too.
Ditto for the musical episode of Buffy.
Or the Loony-toons episode of Farscape. (maybe also the documentary style talking heads in unrealised reality)
Dr Who has yet to do anything on the same level, imo.
But I have hopes.
Maybe season 4 or such when normality of the adnormal is well estbalished, then they can do a off-the-wall eppisode.

I often like experimental episodes (Once More With Feeling and The Body were my two favourite BtVS episodes) but even Hush wasn't produced until the style of the series was established to the extent that audiences thought they knew what to expect, and could thus appreciate its unusual nature[*][/size]. The concept of the upcoming episode seems similar to me, from what I've heard, to Babylon 5's 'A View from the Gallery' and Stargate: SG-1's 'The Other Guys', produced in those series' fifth and sixth seasons respectively. I'll probably agree that this is too early for such an episode but we'll have to see.

Driller wrote:
IronGiant wrote:
oddbob0 wrote: Sorry, but I spat my tea everywhere when I saw Peter Kays character on the advert at the end of the last episode
Was that in disgust, horror or abject terror?
Echoes of JMT "celebrity" casting ...

Many episodes so far have employed comic actors as both featured characters and as writers. As for 'celebrities', there were quite a few voice cameos in Bad Wolf

Darkflame wrote:[...] how much do we know about the Tardis's lifeforce? where did it come from?

See the TARDIS section of The Beginner's Guide to Doctor Who

Darkflame wrote:
DutchLlama wrote:
HGFB wrote:An entire episode of Lexx season 4 was a game of chess between Kai and Prince.
Great, another sci-fi series I never heard of before.
Must. Torrent.
Indeed you must.
Think of it as a low-budget, incredibly corny version of Farscape.
But then with some darn-cool sci-fi concepts, and complete "freedom" of script constraints.

Dont forget the sexual aspects

I see it rather as a telly version of Barbarella but even sillier

HGFB wrote:I think I probably enjoyed series 3 the most. All 4 seasons are available on DVD.

A Season 4 episode did feature two Red Dwarfers acting together, though. And I was very impressed with Hattie Hayridge's performance.

H.

[*][/size] Whedon's fourth season Hush built on the series' reputation for witty dialogue by having no dialogue at all for most of the episode.
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Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:03 pm 0

The thing is, imo, Lexx is brillent when its crap as well

Thanks for the link about the Tardis...I have an eppisode forming in my head....

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:51 am 0

SimonB wrote:Having given time to consider my response (a blatant lie covering up not being near a computer yesterday...):

Apart from expecting him to try and shag everything following Casanova I like Tennant as the doc so far. OK, so the humans are brilliant stuff is getting a bit tiring, but the sense of travelling to see new things and continually getting excited/interested is great. Especially liked the meeting with the wolf in T&C.

I don't have a problem with him describing things like that wolf as beautiful. I do have a problem with him and Rose ticking off monsters like they're doing a bloody I-Spy book. When the two of them had a shared reaction to the werewolf, it wasn't "What a beautiful creature," it was "Hey, fabbo, a werewolf, we've not had one of those before!"

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:56 am 0

Ollie wrote:
SimonB wrote:[...] OK, so the humans are brilliant stuff is getting a bit tiring, but the sense of travelling to see new things and continually getting excited/interested is great. Especially liked the meeting with the wolf in T&C.
I don't have a problem with him describing things like that wolf as beautiful. I do have a problem with him and Rose ticking off monsters like they're doing a bloody I-Spy book. When the two of them had a shared reaction to the werewolf, it wasn't "What a beautiful creature," it was "Hey, fabbo, a werewolf, we've not had one of those before!"

Wouldn't you be excited to see a proper werewolf? I would

Rose had already started becoming Doctorish toward the end of the first season and her progress has continued. Over this season we've witnessed her abilities to see the light side of terror, deal increasingly well with the prospect of being stranded and to take control of a team of people. The Doctor now views her as a near equal and so is sharing his love of discovery with her. While Eccleston's Doctor found dangerous situations "fantastic" (i.e. "Here's a great opportunity to be a martyr."), Tennant's and Rose are just traveling the Universe marveling at the beauty of all aspects of it

I did think that Davies's Doctors have been overly altruistic (something carried over from his previous few incarnations) but it now occurs to me that both may have had valid motivations to fight threats, even without TARDIS malfunctions: Eccleston wanting to die a hero and Tennant having fun being a hero with Rose but only becoming really dangerous when Rose is threatened

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Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:20 am 0

Alarm wrote:Massive spoiler - DO NOT CLICK

Just had the link forwarded to me... Wasn't expecting that...

I was. It's been pretty heftily augured in what we've already seen.

Alarm · Post by **Alarm** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:21 am 0

Bah, and I'd only just deleted my post as I thought a spoiler might not be welcome...

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:23 am 0

That link contains the biggest spoiler possible for this series. Seriously folks. If you don't like your spoilers galaxy sized don't click.

I think it's cool. It would have been better if they could have kept it secret though. Who'd have though Jackie was the Master all along?

Alarm · Post by **Alarm** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:24 am 0

HGFB wrote:That link contains the biggest spoiler possible for this series. Seriously folks. If you don't like your spoilers galaxy sized don't click.

I think it's cool. It would have been better if they could have kept it secret though. Who'd have though Jackie was the Master all along?

Yes, the makeup team did well to disguise the beard.