The Dr Who thread

PeeknPoke Lee · Post by **PeeknPoke Lee** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:03 pm 0

I thought that episode was fantastic - a real change of pace.
You were just waiting for the doctor to appear and save the day.
great. great. great!

nuff said.

Lee

Istar · Post by **Istar** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:04 pm 0

Yeah, liked it a lot.

Having NOT watched any trailers (or read any spoilers) as I usually strive to do, this episode came at me cold. After the first couple of minutes, having got the 'tone' of the episode and where it was going, I sat back and thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it.

The ELO stuff was weird - did the BBC do some kind of viral marketing on this, because I've been hearing Mr. Blue Sky on the radio (Virgin, specifically, not a Beeb channel) repeatedly over the last 10 days - to the point where I popped into my local Virgin megastore last Monday and asked if it had been re-released!

The 'way-over-the-kids-heads' blowjob gag at the end was brilliant. The 'Benny Hill' bit at the beginning was brilliant. The 'twist' of showing the Docs' adventures through an independant 3rd-party video-documentary shot by a bit of a wally was brilliant. Jackie, damn her, was brilliant.

Wife-of-Istar hated every minute of it. For me, it's not one I'll watch over and over again (a la GitF, Dalek, PotW) but I will come back to it for a chuckle now and again. 10/10 for being different and fun.

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:20 pm 0

I managed to miss the Saturday showing due to my TiVo not updating it's schedules while I was on me hols so caught the BBC3 rerun yesterday. To echo a few other sentiments on here I have to say I really enjoyed it but the GF wasn't impressed!

I was a bit peeved at getting the reveal of the alien spoiled by watching Peter Kaye self-agrandising in his usual manner on Jonathon Ross on Friday night, tho

I'm curious to see where this shadow/shade thing goes, tho...is The Doctor on his way th Khazad-dum?

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:52 pm 0

Nice post here from Outpost Gallifrey:

"What's really funny, though, is that following on from The Satan Pit, this episode was fandom's own 'test of faith.' Last week, the Doctor was threatened by something that didn't fit his rules, before deciding that it's the adventure of discovering new things that makes it all worthwhile. What else is Love & Monsters but the series' own equivalent of that philosophy? RTD fills the episode with things that he knows the die-hards will loathe, practically inviting fandom to hate it...but thematically, that places those who do hate the episode on the side of the Absorbaloff, sucking out the fun from fandom. Which, of course, makes them hate it all the more, 'cause nobody likes having their buttons pushed. For those who do 'get' it, we have the reward of seeing the horizons of our favourite show broadened in ways we never thought possible."

Matrixxx · Post by **Matrixxx** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:11 pm 0

Criky, IMDB was fast to add that listing...
http://imdb.com/name/nm0376602/

Tetra Elemental · Post by **Tetra Elemental** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:53 pm 0

IronGiant wrote:Nice post here from Outpost Gallifrey:

"What's really funny, though, is that following on from The Satan Pit, this episode was fandom's own 'test of faith.' Last week, the Doctor was threatened by something that didn't fit his rules, before deciding that it's the adventure of discovering new things that makes it all worthwhile. What else is Love & Monsters but the series' own equivalent of that philosophy? RTD fills the episode with things that he knows the die-hards will loathe, practically inviting fandom to hate it...but thematically, that places those who do hate the episode on the side of the Absorbaloff, sucking out the fun from fandom. Which, of course, makes them hate it all the more, 'cause nobody likes having their buttons pushed. For those who do 'get' it, we have the reward of seeing the horizons of our favourite show broadened in ways we never thought possible."

Arsehole.

grue · Post by **grue** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:00 pm 0

Tetra Elemental wrote: Arsehole.

Here! Here!

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:18 pm 0

WiteWulf wrote:I'm curious to see where this shadow/shade thing goes, tho...is The Doctor on his way th Khazad-dum?

Z'ha'dum you mean??

SimonB · Post by **SimonB** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:26 pm 0

Personally, I hopethe Shadow thing was just a McGuffin to get Elton the child to meet the Doctor and that we never hear about it again. Just to be tantalising.

arron · Post by **arron** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:29 pm 0

Spirit wrote:
WiteWulf wrote:I'm curious to see where this shadow/shade thing goes, tho...is The Doctor on his way th Khazad-dum?
Z'ha'dum you mean??

Perhaps it escaped from other piece of fiction - Mordor..where the shadows lie. When they get up, and after a hearty breakfast..they go off to London..or the dingier parts of it anyway..

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:04 pm 0

Gorecki wrote:I do want to know about ordinary Joe's. I want to know what happens to ordinary Joe's when they come into the whirl-wind presence of the Doctor. So far we've had the long running story of Rose changing from a shop girl to some one who can take on the devil, we've had Mickey growing up and being counted, we've seen more and more of Jackie dealing with the loss caused by Rose's change and now we've had what happens to the bit part players, the people who only see the Doctor briefly before he disappears for good (well, almost).
That's what sci-fi is about, putting both extra-ordinary and ordinary people in bizarre situations and seeing how they react, and that's why it can be so special.

Indeed. What initially grabbed me about the revamped series was seeing the Doctor from the perspective of an ordinary human in Rose, re-igniting that sense of extraordinary wonder and discovery around aspects that had come to seem commonplace in the Who of the eighties.

HGFB wrote:I'd just like to say
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jack is back.

Captain Jack? Is he appearing in this season after all or are you just anticipating Torchwood?

Or are you just referring to the new Pirates of the Caribbean film?

grue wrote:
Tetra Elemental wrote: Arsehole.
Here! Here!

Abzorbaloffs!

H.
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WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:10 pm 0

Spirit wrote:
WiteWulf wrote:I'm curious to see where this shadow/shade thing goes, tho...is The Doctor on his way th Khazad-dum?
Z'ha'dum you mean??

Aye that was it.....been a long time since I last admitted to being a B5 geek

PeeknPoke Lee · Post by **PeeknPoke Lee** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:39 pm 0

Ive got to admit - The Touchwood references are a bit of a joke and I cringe on its every mention.
Writers thoughts - "quick - mention Touchwood....yes..let that person say it" bah!
I thought the BBC did not advertise?!?

I really hated Captain Jack in the previous series. He just didnt fit in as a saw it.

I cant see that new series working to be honest.

I hope I am wrong

Lee

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:47 pm 0

The references to 'Torchwood' are probably correct for what it is, an organisation however it does feel a bit forced and another problem that we already know it's a repeating mime just like badwolf was.

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:47 pm 0

Agreed...I'm sitting firmly in the Jack Haters camp at the moment...thought he was bloody awful and I'm hoping he won't be the main character in Torchwood, he's just too much, too in your face.

As for all the references, yeah...it's a bit too obvious this season...the Bad Wolf stuff last year was, for the most part, a lot subtler than this.