Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

toxibunny · Post by **toxibunny** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:02 am 0

WII MEGAHURTZEZ????

I've been dipping into this thread that kemper_boyd pointed out earlier on... -I'm not a computer whiz, but i'm not stupid, so I've been frowning my way through it, and after reaching page 8 (I didn't say I was fast...) it seems the *lowest* estimate for Wii's power is gamecube*1.5. - what do you people reckon?

are the 'physics functions in CPU/GPU' speculations overambitious?

what *would* be realistic, given moore's law, date since gamecube release, and nintendo's price targets...?

if it *is* realistic that Wii should have more power than screenshots/videos have shown, is it due to a) our wishful thinking b) nintendo underpowering Wii c) we've never *seen* Wii hardware in action yet d) that the 'physics' rumours are true, and aren't easily seen in screenshots/videos so far e)other, please specify...

so?

Post by **Snakey** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:37 am 0

grue wrote:
- BusinessWire reported that Nintendo will utilize MoSys's 1T-SRAM embedded memory technology and NEC's 90nm CMOS-compatible DRAM in the Wii graphic processor.
Anybody care to explain what this means?

It means "Wooo it's exactly the same as the GameCube".

D.J.Fudge wrote:
Miyamoto wrote:Honestly, I have not been able to use 100% of GameCube's power yet

Miyamoto - you're shit.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:38 am 0

How many games looked as good as Re4 then?
err..hmz...2 maybe? out off?

Your thinking of hardware, he is talking of results.
That said, he should have backed that up with some evidence of moves Nintendo are makeing to make development much easier. (eg, if your saying a typical company couldnt push the gamecube hard enough...why should this be any different?)

It means "Wooo it's exactly the same as the GameCube".

Not exactly, its the next ittaration of the technology.
Dont know exactly if that means its faster, or if its just cheaper to make though.
Also, the gamecubes ram is nothing to scoff at. It might have had less then the Xbox, but it was faster.

it seems the *lowest* estimate for Wii's power is gamecube*1.5. - what do you people reckon?

All comes down to the magic word "power" dosnt it?
In terms of clockspeed it might be just 50% faster, but with little more ram, and a new gpu that allone allows you to make better graphics.
(especialy if your rendering to a lower resolution then everyone else)

Personaly I think game graphics are now 90% to do with what manpower the developers have these days anyway. Having ultra-high res charecters but craply made textures/enviroments dont do it for me.

are the 'physics functions in CPU/GPU' speculations overambitious?

Not ambitious, just unlikely.

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:21 am 0

toxibunny wrote:are the 'physics functions in CPU/GPU' speculations overambitious?

ATI are working with Havok on HavokFX, ATI are building the GPU for
Revolution, Havok are supporting Revolution. People are jumping to
conclusions that Revolution will accelerate physics using the GPU, it's
not been announced but it might be possible if the new GPU is more
capable than the Flipper chip, but right now the evidence doesn't
support that theory.

Perhaps everything seen so far is from Gamecube dev boxes with the
new controller and the real hardware and games have yet to be seen,
but that's becoming less likely by the day. Overall it looks like a Cube
probably with costs reduced and maybe with some minor improvements,
but not the sort of platform something like HavokFX requires (SM 3.0 GPU).

D.J.Fudge · Post by **D.J.Fudge** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 am 0

I've just noticed this from the Nintendo briefing I posted earlier, the price of Wii dev kits

We are also intending to provide them with a dev kit at an inexpensive price, say, at little more than 200,000 yen.

200 000 Japanese yen = Â£940

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:43 pm 0

If that includes the full tool chain, and it's not shit (bye bye Metroworks, who by the accounts I have read made the best GC dev environment) then that's ace news

Cheers

Bubba

Nixie · Post by **Nixie** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:51 pm 0

D.J.Fudge wrote:I've just noticed this from the Nintendo briefing I posted earlier, the price of Wii dev kits

We are also intending to provide them with a dev kit at an inexpensive price, say, at little more than 200,000 yen.
200 000 Japanese yen = Â£940

... now wheres that 'Things to make Yak buy' thread......

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:16 am 0

Nixie wrote:

... now wheres that 'Things to make Yak buy' thread......

If he doesn't get one, I say we all leave for 'World of Stuart Forums' and never look back...

namor7 · Post by **namor7** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:08 am 0

^:lol:

In other news, Nintendo Power has just revealed seven surefire launch games:

Nintendo:

The Legend of Zedla: Twilight Princess

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

Wii Sports

Ubisoft:

Red Steel

Rayman Raving Rabbits

Sega:

Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz

Square Enix:

Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors

All fanboy flag waving aside, is that not an incredible line-up? They say it's going to double at least, and possibly triple. Wow

With Dragon Quest, it'll own Japan. And as long as Ubisoft works the kinks out of Red Steel, I'm sure it'll be awesome.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:57 am 0

There are 5 games on that list that I want, but where's Mario?

TFO · Post by **TFO** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:31 am 0

Anders wrote:There are 5 games on that list that I want, but where's Mario?

Mario was never promised as a launch title - but we have a few months to go yet.

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:11 am 0

Yep, SMG is coming when it's ready, probably in 6 months time from the launch. I'm hoping for Excite Truck, Wario Ware and Elebits to be confirmed soon as well. Out of those, Rayman and DQ are the only ones that I'm not that interested, and that's because I don't know anything about them. I'm quite sure MP3, Zelda and SMB will turn out great, but so far the real highlight for me here is WiiSports, which imo should be included in every Wii. Really looking forward to seeing how the controls evolve in Red Steel.

grue · Post by **grue** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:27 am 0

Those titles are great for educated gamers but Wii needs some brain-dead FIFA-age and *insert generic driving game* with a spoonfull of *insert generic violent shooter* to really make an impact westernside.

They might want to tap into new demographics but third parties will see the initial sales impact before they sign or jump ship.

Nixie · Post by **Nixie** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:28 am 0

goatboy wrote:
Nixie wrote:

... now wheres that 'Things to make Yak buy' thread......
If he doesn't get one, I say we all leave for 'World of Stuart Forums' and never look back...

he'll be glad to be rid of us

As for Wii sports included with every Wii, it makes sense, at least as a download if not loaded into the flash memory.

Perkunas · Post by **Perkunas** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:27 am 0

grue wrote:Those titles are great for educated gamers but Wii needs some brain-dead FIFA-age and *insert generic driving game* with a spoonfull of *insert generic violent shooter* to really make an impact westernside.

They might want to tap into new demographics but third parties will see the initial sales impact before they sign or jump ship.

Nintendo is supposedly pumping more R&D money into Wii to insure a steadier flow of releases after the initial launch. Sounds good, because GameCube suffered some droughts.