The Dr Who thread

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:27 am 0

HGFB wrote:As said earlier. Just stop comic book guying it to death and you might enjoy yourself more.

That's all fine and good, and I know it's supposed to be a kid's program and all, and I enjoyed the first three quarters of that episode very much, but there are kids up and down the country saying, "He picked up the Olympic torch?! What the fucking fuck? Fucking hell, I was enjoying that. Are they fucking bankrupt, creatively speaking?" before throwing a brick through the TV in disgust.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:36 am 0

teamonkey wrote:
HGFB wrote:As said earlier. Just stop comic book guying it to death and you might enjoy yourself more.
That's all fine and good, and I know it's supposed to be a kid's program and all,

Not a kids program. A family show. Important difference.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:36 am 0

daniel thomas wrote:Perhaps I'm enjoying these episodes as a good bit of television

Which last weeks' wasn't particularly. I didn't mind the one before (but it wasn't Doctor Who).

I'm not looking forward to Billie Piper leaving. She's an equal on the show, and I don't see how you recreate that perfect chemistry with a new actress.

I am because I'm hoping the writers will stop masturbating over her and get on with writing good stories where Doctor Who actually appears for more than a third of the show.

Madame Du Pompadour is exactly how this series should be written. A story about the Doctor. And you can't argue that's a search for the past, because that episode has very little resemblance to Doctor Who that's gone before. It was just the perfect episode and the rest of this series hasn't been half as good (but mostly still very watchable apart from the truly bad first episode and last week's meh).

Stevo · Post by **Stevo** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:58 am 0

Dio wrote: I am because I'm hoping the writers will stop masturbating over her

I wish I could stop as well

mightyzim · Post by **mightyzim** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:25 am 0

I was a dad once....

hmmm what happened to his grand-daughter?

SimonB · Post by **SimonB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:35 am 0

I think I must be pickign up a different version of the BBC from some of you lot.

Have enjoyed every episode so far - it is Dr Who for the 21st Century and frankly we should all rejoice at every minute that gets broadcast given (a) the treatment received by the show in the past and (b) how much UK produced sf telly there is(n't) to compare it with.

My only complaint with Fear Her was that the majority of "changes" or "movement" to the drawings was done off screen - but then if part of the idea was to save the budget for the finale then fine, I can live with it.

And as for Huw being a lowly news 24 anchor in 6 years time - maybe instead he will have reached Dimbleby status and only be wheeled out for the special occasions!

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:35 am 0

She killed the Master in one of the past Doctor BBC books.

Matrixxx · Post by **Matrixxx** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:45 am 0

Just a thought, possibly a major one, but... if dimentions are colliding as stated in the trailer... maybe the time war had a different outcome in their universe ?

Hmm..

Been watching the last series most of last night, will continue that tonight with the 2nd part of Empty Child... i'm seeing more info this time around that I missed first time.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:55 am 0

If Timelords existed still in other dimensions it probably wouldn't be so much a problem, in the cybermen one he mentions that his people are gone and so the doors between dimensions were sealed (the tarids fell through an existing crack), this either means there was one existance of timelords between all dimensions are litterally all timelords were wiped out.

juice · Post by **juice** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:16 pm 0

teamonkey wrote:
HGFB wrote:As said earlier. Just stop comic book guying it to death and you might enjoy yourself more.
That's all fine and good, and I know it's supposed to be a kid's program and all, and I enjoyed the first three quarters of that episode very much, but there are kids up and down the country saying, "He picked up the Olympic torch?! What the fucking fuck? Fucking hell, I was enjoying that. Are they fucking bankrupt, creatively speaking?" before throwing a brick through the TV in disgust.

Ditto.

The episode seemed very patchy: there were bits which were far too cheesy (the old woman, the council-man whittering on about tarmac), and bits which worked reasonably well (the way the drawings were handled, the interview with the kid, give or take the vulcan references). The whole bit with the torch was just plain crap though - both the way it was used as a plot device and how the Doctor took it for a jog.

I do wonder if maybe they're simply trying to be too many things to too many people. It's impressively popular at the moment, but I suspect the new Doctor is going to date very very quickly.

The grand finale looks to have some promise: it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out in the end...

[Feeblez] · Post by **[Feeblez]** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:10 pm 0

I'll admit to being a bit of a geek, but i'm no comic book guy, just your average sleaze who thinks most sci-fi on tv is boring as hell.

Battle Star Galactica was on tv last week, not seen it yet, but decided not to watch it because i'd probably think it was boring as hell.

I like British shows, my favourite at the moment being Ideal with Johnny Vegas. (Funny as hell)

Ok. So. I liked the episode with that weird boglin bloke out of Hustle in it.
Peter Kay was good, his rubber suit was hilarious. The other actors were really good too. I liked the story.

I watched the one with Maureen Lipman(sp?) in, it was okay, i fell asleep towards the end though.

I think this weeks episode can be compared quite fairly with that episode, as i thought they were both thematically quite similar:

'Fear Her' Vs 'The Idiots Lantern'

Decent child Actor: The Idiots Lantern WINS!
Decent supporting actors: The Idiots Lantern WINS!
Quality production values: The Idiots Lantern WINS!
Credible story: The Idiots Lantern WINS!
Rose going off 'investigating' on her own again like an idiot: DRAW!
Rose not saving the day for once: The Idiots Lantern WINS!
Plot device involving the Olympic Torch or the Queens Coronation Handbag: The Idiots Lantern WINS!
Quaffored hair: The Idiots Lantern WINS!
Pink helmets: The Idiots Lantern WINS!
I could go on...

For me The Idiots Lantern was one of the weaker episodes, maybe because i fell asleep during it, but that was until i saw last Saturday's travesty! It makes The Idiots Lantern look like a frickin' masterpiece!

One last thing, David Tennent is becoming more and more high pitch, he needs to get a grip.

SimonB · Post by **SimonB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:19 pm 0

[Feeblez] wrote: One last thing, David Tennent is becoming more and more high pitch, he needs to get a grip.

Surely he needs to loosen his grip...

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:21 pm 0

[Feeblez] wrote: Battle Star Galactica was on tv last week, not seen it yet, but decided not to watch it because i'd probably think it was boring as hell.

How do you ever experience anything new in life? That sort of closed minded attitude has gotta lead to a really dull existence!

Bog · Post by **Bog** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:29 pm 0

I agree with WiteWulf on this one.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:32 pm 0

Yup. New BSG is dark, gritty, violent, nasty and ace. I think part of the problem with new Who last year was a lot of fans were expecting a BSG style makeover and got a family show.