The Dr Who thread

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:33 pm 0

I thought it was ace (just watched it).

Boo to you nay-sayers, boo!

[Feeblez] · Post by **[Feeblez]** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:43 pm 0

Fingers on lips!

Bog · Post by **Bog** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:47 pm 0

I think part of the problem with new Who last year was a lot of fans were expecting a BSG style makeover and got a family show.

I've got no problem with a family show, except when it makes me feel patronised. Like the excessively credulous and fick "normal people" in the Peter Kay ep, or the "mummy/daughter defeat the bad thing with singing", which is... well... it's more "children's telly" than "family entertainment" for me.

But then... I keep watching. *shrugs* And I actually care enough about it to talk about it and listen to other people's opinion on the subject.

Which means it's still doing it's job.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:48 pm 0

The only drawback of BSG is that you really need to watch it from the beginning to the end. There's so much going on which refers to previous episodes that you'd probably be lost if you start watching midway the season. So you might get the DVD boxset instead (or be naughty and get it on bit torrent

).

Babylon 5 also had this with their long story arcs. And that was ace too!

[Feeblez] · Post by **[Feeblez]** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:48 pm 0

WiteWulf wrote:
[Feeblez] wrote: Battle Star Galactica was on tv last week, not seen it yet, but decided not to watch it because i'd probably think it was boring as hell.
How do you ever experience anything new in life? That sort of closed minded attitude has gotta lead to a really dull existence!

Well i probably would have watched it if i hadn't just downloaded the PREY demo.

But i don't generally like stuff like Stargate-SG1, Deep Space Nine, Babylon 5, etc.

I'm sure BSG is much better.

Strangely i quite like Farscape, but then it does have Muppets in it.

Maybe i'm just a bit overly fussy?

Bruce Campbell can have my babies!

[Feeblez] · Post by **[Feeblez]** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:36 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:The only drawback of BSG is that you really need to watch it from the beginning to the end. There's so much going on which refers to previous episodes that you'd probably be lost if you start watching midway the season. So you might get the DVD boxset instead (or be naughty and get it on bit torrent ).

Babylon 5 also had this with their long story arcs. And that was ace too!

D'oh! it seems that i was wrong and they're already up to episode 5 on Sky Three, thought it had only just started:
http://bleb.org/tv/info.html?ch=sky_thr ... pid=25&all

So thanks DutchLlama for the... *whistle* ~Meow!~

I realised i might have come across as a bit of an arse with my opinions... so i'll try get myself in some more sticky mud right now...

I really hated that episode of Doctor Who, and although i do like Sci-Fi, i find most of it complete rubbish to watch, so that is my problem, it's the same with books. I don't look down on anyone who likes something that i don't like, say if someone made me a NCoT and i was presented with a cup of Coffee, i hate Coffee, and even though it tastes like shit and makes your breath stink, i know a lot of people that do like it, and that's cool, but i still won't drink it!

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:49 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:BTW: I didn't see

Mickey and Pete Tyler
in it.

That spoiler is indeed present in the trailer. I've just seen it on the OG forums.

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:51 pm 0

I've managed to avoid all the 'next week' trailers and all spoilers online so far so the last episodes are still a complete mystery to me, woo yay, go me!

However, I'm gonna be sat in Hyde Park this Saturday afternoon and won't get chance to watch the show 'til I get home late on Monday night

[Feeblez] · Post by **[Feeblez]** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:01 pm 0

I'm really looking forward to next weeks episode.

If the Doctor and Rose can resist acting like hyperactive school children with danger all around them then it could be really good indeed.

Kelloggs · Post by **Kelloggs** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:26 pm 0

[Feeblez] wrote:If the Doctor and Rose can resist acting like hyperactive school children with danger all around them...

Thankyou. Thankyouthankyouthankyou! You've just made my day!

I've been struggling to put my finger on it for quite a while now, and I've just been putting it down to me being a grown-up, watching a show designed to have the children hiding behind the sofa, but it isn't, is it? It's because there's no fear in it. We've seen multiple realisations from Rose that, due to the TARDIS being unavailable (again) she can never go home, and she's depressed because of it. We've seen the Doctor without the means to explore the Universe, coincidentally because the TARDIS is unavailable (ahem), and he's depressed because of it. We've seen the Doctor being angry, and I strongly suspect that Our Boy Tennant could do an absolutely frothing-at-the-mouth rant on the Injustice Inherent In The Universe if the script called upon him so to do, but... I don't recall any point in New Who thus far when the main characters actually looked scared. I mean really, mortally, in fear for their continued existence, scared.

I know the Doctor knows a lot of What's Going On, but he can't know his future enough to know he'll definitely be in next week's episode. And yet he acts as if everything else in the universe is a fluffy, cuddly toy, to bend over and look at and say "Aren't you beautiful!" at, where any sensible person would wet themselves or run off. Or both. This, I think we need, and Impossible Planet/Satan Pit got closest so far, but still not close enough for my taste: We need them to look SCARED.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:04 pm 0

Rose I can understand but you are assuming the Doctor actually fears death.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:07 pm 0

HGFB wrote:Rose I can understand but you are assuming the Doctor actually fears death.

Jackie is rather good at being terrified out of her wits. CC would have made a good assistant about 20 years ago.

Edit: rather 30-40 years ago (but she would have been too young then) as the assistants in classic Dr. Who's later days weren't the type to run away screaming but rather run to the monsters with their home made explosives.

Bog · Post by **Bog** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:38 pm 0

Oh, please. Ace was quite possibly the worst assistant the Doctor ever had. Nothing would have delighted me more than one of her IEDs being on a sufficient short fuse to turn her into a plot twist.

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:43 pm 0

Bog wrote:Oh, please. Ace was quite possibly the worst assistant the Doctor ever had. Nothing would have delighted me more than one of her IEDs being on a sufficient short fuse to turn her into a plot twist.

What, worse than Bonnie Langford?

Bog · Post by **Bog** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:08 pm 0

Yes. Worse than Bonnie Langford. I'm not sure how she did it, but she did.

*edit*

Then again... I think the fact that she was called "Ace" was irritant enough. There was a reason why Arnold Rimmer nicknamed himself "Ace". It's because anyone who calls themselves Ace is intrinsically a bit like Arnold Rimmer...