Football: WORLD CUP 06 and close season/transfer discussion.

Rev. Stuart Campbell · Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:18 pm 0

aureole wrote:I'm happy that the more positive team won. Is this going to be the pattern of the quarters- 1-0 lead and defend dully?

Were you watching it on the radio too? Argentina lost because they didn't defend enough after going ahead. In the first half they had about 65% possession, the Germans couldn't get the ball and Argentina just stroked it around their own half. After they scored they went looking for another goal, let the Germans back into it, and ultimately paid for it. If they'd held onto the ball second-half like they did first, the game would never have seen extra time. When they took off Crespo, they brought on another centre-forward, not a defensive midfielder.

They had far more shots at goal than the Germans, did most of the attacking except for 20 minutes of the second half, and were the only ones trying to win it in the second half of extra time. The tournament will be poorer without them. I hope the Germans win it now, though - they're the second-most-attacking side, and the alternatives are all too horrible to contemplate.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:24 pm 0

aureole wrote:Argentina are a great side, it makes me sad to see them doing all that other diving and handbags shite.

Leopard doesn't change his spots. When they're winning 6-0 against shite teams it's all flowers and sunshine but when the pressure is on it's diving and punches.

Rev. Stuart Campbell · Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:33 pm 0

Where are you all imagining this tosh from? Were you listening to the almost comically-biased ITV commentary? Argentina hardly fell over in the whole game, because the ref was giving them absolutely nothing. Rodriguez had a tumble in the box that I've seen MUCH softer penalties given than, and got booked for his trouble. A little later Ballack fell over in the same box, was deemed to have dived (the ref gave a foul), but didn't get booked. The ref was a homer, and diving would have been completely fruitless for the Argentina players.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:35 pm 0

If there's one thing I really don't like seeing at this World Cup, it's the German players patting referees on the back after they give them a decision/advantage.

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:46 pm 0

The BBC studio guys are agreeing with Stu... Have to say I agree too.

biggestjim · Post by **biggestjim** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:56 pm 0

Flabio wrote:
aureole wrote:Is this going to be the pattern of the quarters- 1-0 lead and defend dully?
Put it this way, I'm not expecting Italy v Ukraine to be a goalfest...

I have this feeling we're going to have plenty of goals tonight, at least three.
Italy will win. (the World Cup)

Come on Luca Toni!

Absolute_Zero · Post by **Absolute_Zero** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:58 pm 0

True dat, but Ballack should've got a penalty when he was pulled over in the box in a previous incident.

If McCarthy is correct, one of Argentina's subs should be arrested.

biggestjim · Post by **biggestjim** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:09 pm 0

Ah Zambrotta!

Crystal_sword · Post by **Crystal_sword** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:17 pm 0

What was all that punch throwing about anyway?

I heard that Podolski did a Hitler Salute or something whil celebrating, and some Argentinr players just Flipped.

As for fouling, if you ask me, its all Fifa's fault.

Im not a good footballer, but when i play, i do notoce that palying and watching these "prefessionals" paly is completley different.

When we play, i would tehre is like 1 foul in the entire match,

In "professional" football, they cant go 30 seconds without giving away a penalty.

Obviously there are going to be Dives.

if anything, Argentina are ight to dive, its not like Fifa are going to do anything.

Its a shame all that talent in players is gpone to waste because a proper game of Football cant be played.

this game was like South Korea and Japan, with the Referees taking it a little easy on the Home Side.

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Ukrain 1-0 down, would be nice to see Ukrain play some attacking football for a change

PFVA · Post by **PFVA** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:27 pm 0

Crystal_sword wrote:What was all that punch throwing about anyway?

I heard that Podolski did a Hitler Salute or something whil celebrating, and some Argentinr players just Flipped.

I didn't get to see or listen to the game. (Too much work). There was punch throwing? I'm hoping there was so the last Portugal game is errased fm memory.

From the BBC site:

The trouble seemed to start when midfielder Tim Borowski gestured towards the Argentina players to "keep quiet" having scored his penalty to make it 4-2 in Germany's favour.

The Argentinians are often accused of giving refuge to Nazis after WWII (in fact a few South American countries not just Argentina did that) and they quite sensible about it but i wouldn't think the Germans would be bringing that up.

Crystal_sword · Post by **Crystal_sword** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:48 pm 0

no idea what it exactley was.

At the monet there are various stories.

But it was certainly from a celebration that Made some of the Argentine Footballers Angry.

its wrong to give the whole team a bad name, i think it was only 3 or 4 of them who just went beserk.

It was nothing major.

Heinze was Pushing and shoving, and Maxi came flying with a Punch, and then there was more pushing and shoving, and alot of Shouting and screaming,

mac monkey · Post by **mac monkey** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:50 pm 0

Lets all chill out and play some...

DRIBBLE KING

http://interaktiv.wm2006.deutschland.de/dribbelkoenig/

Col · Post by **Col** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:02 pm 0

The trouble seemed to start when midfielder Tim Borowski gestured towards the Argentina players to "keep quiet" having scored his penalty to make it 4-2 in Germany's favour.

Several of the South American players walked towards him and when the final Argentina spot-kick was saved, the Argentina defender Fabricio Coloccini approached Germany's Oliver Neuville.

Punches were thrown in a brief melee before it was broken up.

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Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:32 pm 0

Cue Ukraine kicking themselves for missing the chances when they had them.

biggestjim · Post by **biggestjim** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:53 pm 0

biggestjim wrote:
Flabio wrote:
aureole wrote:Is this going to be the pattern of the quarters- 1-0 lead and defend dully?
Put it this way, I'm not expecting Italy v Ukraine to be a goalfest...
I have this feeling we're going to have plenty of goals tonight, at least three.
Italy will win. (the World Cup)

Come on Luca Toni!

Well, well. Eh?