The Dr Who thread

Sir_LANs-a-lot · Post by **Sir_LANs-a-lot** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:40 am 0

FX23- master ov questions wrote:how do mickey get through before the rest of the cybermen?

How do you know he didn't come through with the ones that were behind the plastic sheeting?

anon76235 · Post by **anon76235** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am 0

so how they get throw then? and why were they so keen to come here? how did they know where it would lead?

Sir_LANs-a-lot · Post by **Sir_LANs-a-lot** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:48 am 0

They thought it was a rave innit.

anon76235 · Post by **anon76235** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:54 am 0

totally

Purple Grapefruit · Post by **Purple Grapefruit** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:19 am 0

Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:I was quite surprised at Roses' (lack of) response to seeing Mickey considering it was looking like they wouldn't ever see each other again.

Well the situation was weird.
Mickey suddenly turns up in the same room as Rose even though she left him in a parallel universe.
He gestures to Rose not to respond.
The giant ball bearing starts wobbling ominously with loud banging sounds.
Raj the technician starts having a baby.
The doors lock.
Mickey the wimp turns into Bruce Willis and pulls out a BFG
..........etc

I thought Rose's reponses were spot on actually.
By the way,she does an excellent WTF look while all this is going on.

KlaxonCow · Post by **KlaxonCow** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:31 am 0

FX23- master ov questions wrote:how do mickey get through before the rest of the cybermen?

Some cybermen already were through - the ones who grabbed that bird in the building area - and, to be fair, that might be why there was an "early reveal" on them: To explain how Mickey was already there.

Going by the Doctor's pane of glass analogy, the void ship bust a hole as it travelled through and created cracks throughout the void - this is where the "ghosts" were half-coming-through from - but at the actual point that the void ship entered "this" universe, it's a hole, not a crack.

Therefore, at the right point in space - Canary Wharf - the two universes had a clear "tunnel" between them. The "early reveal" Cybermen in the building area shows us that, at this point, they could actually cross over completely. Not just as "ghosts".

Mickey, hunting down Cybermen in the other universe, sees a bunch of Cybermen hopping through this "tunnel" in the void and, you know, hops through as well to find out what they are doing (might even have, say, heard Lumic talking over a "Cyberman iintercom" - or hacked into their computers to discover their "plans" - about what it was, to perhaps even know in advance where the tunnel leads to. But, of course, I'm just guessing this bit because it's not in the episode).

So, though the "early reveal" was perhaps not so good dramatically (but then RTD knew he actually had an even better cliffhanger coming that he could do that and still have a "reveal" later on to knock your socks off), it might have been there simply for explaining things.

Mickey jumped through at Canary Wharf, as the "early reveal" Cybermen did.

Well, something like that anyway. I guess that's how it works, according to the Doctor's pane of glass explanation thingy.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:39 am 0

KlaxonCow wrote:Mickey jumped through at Canary Wharf, as the "early reveal" Cybermen did.

But how did Mickey come to be a Torchwood employee under an alias?

Especially since the psychic paper didn't fool the sphere technician.

Purple Grapefruit · Post by **Purple Grapefruit** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:49 am 0

Hacking a torchwood pooter holding the employee list, to add his own (as an alias), would seem to be Mickey's style.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:20 am 0

Snakey wrote:*Sigh*

Yet again, this thread manages to spoil at least part of next weeks episode for me.

You're all a bunch of cunts. Really.

Where? I had a look but I couldn't see anything but a comment about a fat cyberman which let's face it is obviously a fault in the cgi/screenshot and not Rose's fate.

andym00 · Post by **andym00** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:29 am 0

Question, but it hinges on the next weeks trailer so I'll put in in spoiler form so as not to upset anyone

Was that contraption the daleks were wheeling around called the Genesis Ark, or the ReGenesis Ark ? My brains failing me

Cracking episode though, can't wait to see next weeks now..

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:38 am 0

The first one Andy.

anon76235 · Post by **anon76235** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:05 am 0

if all the ghosts came through wernt that ment to shatter reality or something?

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:08 am 0

Could you repeat that but this time English instead of gibberish?

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:27 am 0

I think the "shattering" the doc referred to was the barrier between the two worlds of reality, as in, the ball-bearing got through, but once you push it, it'll be gone for good and *everything* can wander through.

The weird thing is, even though I'd be spoiled at some point about the fact the Daleks would show up for the finale, I was totally shocked at the end (in a good way), so I'm going to try to stay spoiler-free for the rest of it anyway. I was convinced the sphere had something to do with the Satan Pit.

I do know some people that have given up on this series (last two eps bored them a bit), so I've told -nay ordered- them to watch the repeat to get up to speed.

anon76235 · Post by **anon76235** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:37 am 0

does that mean everyones double willl turn up to?