The Dr Who thread

merman · Post by **merman** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:46 am 0

Zoot wrote:I loved it all, but the best thing about the whole episode was the Doctor's 3D specs.

Absolutely ace.

Yeah, that was a nice touch. References Ghostbusters again (the visors) but has a slightly odd feel to it. I mean, if they are just red & green 3D specs from Earth, what is he seeing through them? Can he "see" on different wavelengths?

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:56 am 0

merman wrote:Yeah, that was a nice touch. References Ghostbusters again (the visors) but has a slightly odd feel to it. I mean, if they are just red & green 3D specs from Earth, what is he seeing through them? Can he "see" on different wavelengths?

I assumed it was just taking the piss out of this Doctor putting his glasses on every time he's about to do something clever.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:07 pm 0

HGFB wrote:
Snakey wrote:*Sigh*

Yet again, this thread manages to spoil at least part of next weeks episode for me.

You're all a bunch of cunts. Really.
Where? I had a look but I couldn't see anything but a comment about a fat cyberman which let's face it is obviously a fault in the cgi/screenshot and not Rose's fate.

It may be a lens effect or something. Since it's in the far edge of the screenshot.

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:47 pm 0

daniel thomas wrote:Now, as long as the season finale doesn't finish on another deus ex machina, we'll be in for a great ride.

This isn't another reference to what TARDIS-Rose did last year, is it? There wasn't any deus ex machina as far as I could see (although it might be described as a deus in machina). The capabilities of the TARDIS were hinted at throughout the season and even seen, to a limited extent, in the episode immediately preceding Bad Wolf. It's not even as if it had no negative consequences as the Vortex energy kills whomever it resides in.

daniel thomas wrote:And Davies finally threw a very large bone to the diehard fanboys (after making fun of them in Love & Monsters).

I thought that he wasn't only making fun of the Abzorbaloffs, those who suck the fun out of fandom.

daniel thomas wrote:So, is Rose really going to die? I hate so see her go, but if they're promising a spectacular death, then that's what I expect. Don't cop out in the end and cheat.

I doubt that she's going to die in the sense of not being alive any more. Who'd have done the narration, for a start?

daniel thomas wrote:So when does the Torchwood show go on the air? I'd hope it would be during Dr Who's off-season. UNIT with a neo-con bent...not bad. [...]

Around October, I think, although I think that we're currently seeing Torchwood at its worst. The Cardiff branch might be a little nicer

SimonB wrote:That was superb, if you ask me. I definitely want to know what's in the thinkg the Daleks bring along, and what makes the black one different.

The black ones have generally been leaders known as ''Dalek Supreme', much as Cyberman with black headbars are Cyber Leaders.

SimonB wrote:And I couldn't believe how much Torchwood they showed us in Confidential. Seriously looking forward to that show even more now. "Jack has issues about having come back from the dead" - no shit! [...]

And don't forget those years in Jack's past. He has

Driller wrote:One thing though - it's about time Torchwood stepped aside and let UNIT take charge
Recall the Brig and let the pros sort it out. Let's not forget - Torchwood are newbie virgins to Cybermen and Daleks whereas UNIT have battled them (and won) several times ...

Haven't UNIT only encountered the Cybermen once, in the late twentieth century?

Anyway, their gold tipped rounds would probably be useless against the Cybus Cybermen, who seem to have fixed that little problem

Viscount Charles wrote:[...] biggest mis-step of all, in the script department - why reveal the Cybermen so early? There was no need at all to show the girl getting turned by the Cybermen - it would have been enough for her to come back out of the polythene with the two earpods, and let the audience nod at one another knowingly, allowing the later "reveal" to still have a bit of an impact.

That shot was an afterthought. It was decided that there was little point in concealing the Cyberman presence as just about everyone would know about it beforehand. They instead concentrated their efforts on trying to keep the Daleks secret. I do personally agree, however, that a shot of curtain and a scream might have been more effective.

amanset wrote:So, was the appearance of the Daleks spoilt by the UK media or did they manage to keep it all quiet?

I think that they managed to keep it quiet, for the most part, even down to cutting the end of Army of Ghosts from the preview screenings. They also seeded the press with a different 'spoiler' to keep them occupied

amanset wrote:And what does this mean as a whole? Does this mean a "reboot" of the Daleks and Cybermen backstories so we can have full and read for action "big bad" forces with no complicated baggage to get in the way of things for new viewers?

Much the same as with the Daleks last year but with even less 'baggage'. The Doctor mentions that he's seen them before while, in the case of the Cybermen, we've seen their alternative origins. Aside from the occasional nod to old fans any backstory should be on a 'need to know' basis and, for the most part, we won't need to know.

HGFB wrote:He won't be kissing DT.

BOOOOO!

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Bog · Post by **Bog** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:11 pm 0

Just noticed that the first Cyberman who spoke has black head-handles.

Hum. The tradition lives.

*edit* And Mickey ended up with the gun sideways. Christ....

anon76235 · Post by **anon76235** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:24 pm 0

why did they want a load of ghosts comming through?

Sir_LANs-a-lot · Post by **Sir_LANs-a-lot** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:29 pm 0

Cuz ghosts kick it at raves, innit.

Large stylee. You knows it.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:35 pm 0

The new Radio Times cover:

http://www.radiotimes.com/content/magflash/

And it comes with a doublesided Cybermen and Dalek poster too.

Wish I could buy that over here.

BTW: What's the black Dalek holding in his plunger?

Col · Post by **Col** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:39 pm 0

I like the picture of the Doctor & the black Dalek together. (reached by clicking on that 'Cover Story' tab)

Col · Post by **Col** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:39 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:The new Radio Times cover:

http://www.radiotimes.com/content/magflash/

And it comes with a doublesided Cybermen and Dalek poster too.

Wish I could buy that over here.

BTW: What's the black Dalek holding in his plunger?

A football! Just like the Cybermen in the alternate cover.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:43 pm 0

Col wrote:
DutchLlama wrote:The new Radio Times cover:

http://www.radiotimes.com/content/magflash/

And it comes with a doublesided Cybermen and Dalek poster too.

Wish I could buy that over here.

BTW: What's the black Dalek holding in his plunger?
A football! Just like the Cybermen in the alternate cover.

Mhh, shame they don't show that. Or the Dalek poster for that matter.

Col · Post by **Col** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:46 pm 0

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/r ... es_13a.jpg

anon76235 · Post by **anon76235** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:48 pm 0

do daleks kick it at raves?

Sir_LANs-a-lot · Post by **Sir_LANs-a-lot** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:49 pm 0

FX23- master ov questions wrote:do daleks kick it at raves?

No.

Due to a lack of legs.

Do you see?

merman · Post by **merman** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:50 pm 0

FX23- master ov questions wrote:why did they want a load of ghosts comming through?

They were drawing energy from the "void" during the ghost shift. In fact Yvonne makes a reference to a "good" shift having got them gigawatts of energy...