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Viscount Charles wrote: I want something new, somthing radical, and most of all something really good. Fingers crossed for Viva Pinata.
Have you tried Hitman Blood Money? Well worth a look if you're after something unique, deep and highly challenging. Requires a lot of patience, but the payback is huge if you can put the time in. It's the most satisfyingly sick game since Manhunt, but doesn't have any of the annoying stealth sections that you might associate with the Hitman franchise.

Give it a go, it's ace.
Seconded, it's 3D chess with a bit of killing now and then really. Even better playing it with your mates, coming up with new and different ways of performing the hits and not causing too much carnage.
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skweek wrote:Seconded, it's 3D chess with a bit of killing now and then really. Even better playing it with your mates, coming up with new and different ways of performing the hits and not causing too much carnage.
I was playing the demo a little bit to see if it was any good after seeing a reduced copy in Gaystation. Now I want my own ;) Great fun, and not really what I was expecting at all. I like the slightly-matt, slightly-shiny look, it's like a cross between cel-shading and having everything made out of Plasticine. Weird, but in a good way :D

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Stone wrote:I was playing the demo a little bit to see if it was any good after seeing a reduced copy in Gaystation. Now I want my own ;) Great fun, and not really what I was expecting at all. I like the slightly-matt, slightly-shiny look, it's like a cross between cel-shading and having everything made out of Plasticine. Weird, but in a good way :D
I was gonna say ignore the demo because it doesn't do the full game any favours, but hey. If you liked the demo the full game will blow you away.

I went into Hitman thinking I'd be getting a twist on the stealth genre, but as skweek said it's more like a brain puzzle than anything. You watch, wait, observe, and plan your tactics methodically and meticulously, it's very slow paced, very precise and clinically cold. Most of the levels can be cleared without firing a single bullet, it's all about engineering "accidental" deaths and performing your hit as cleanly and anonymously as possible.

The levels are amongst the busiest and most highly populated I've seen, it feels alive and full of activity. It's Manhunt for people with too much time on their hands and twisted imaginations. Ace.
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That's very much what I was thinking based on the demo, but expressed rather more fluently ;) Once you get over the hand-holding (and realise that you don't actually have to do what they suggest!) then it suddenly becomes very much more interesting.

Chromehounds, however, was cack. It plays more like a graphical demo than anything else - you don't feel in control, you don't even have a crosshair (eh?!) except for a crazy targeting camera in the top-right of the screen, movement feels clumsy and you can't change between normal and inverted Y axis in-game (why?!) which is infuriating if like me you prefer different settings based on the type of game and default camera angle. I see where they're coming from with the realism aspect but it made it very much unplayable for me.

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Stone wrote:Chromehounds, however, was cack.

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That's two poor 360 games by From Software then, dunno what happened to them after the rather lovely Otogi I and II. Shame, as I thought they'd be pushing themselves on the 360.
Once you get over the hand-holding (and realise that you don't actually have to do what they suggest!) then it suddenly becomes very much more interesting.
Oh yeah it's totally open to experimentation, sandbox-y without being too sprawling and overwhelming, and varied enough to keep you coming back to try out new techniques and improve your rating. The feeling of satisfaction when you've orchestrated a perfectly clean hit with no witnesses and no shots fired is immense - you can use guns and there are plenty to unlock, much better to kill the cops by poisoning their donuts, or by dressing up as a binman and dumping victims in the back of a garbage truck though. On one mission you can execute an FBI agent who likes sniffing panties by drenching said knickers with poison for the next time he goes to indulge himself. All this whilst you're dressed as a clown at a kid's party with a kitchen knife concealed about your person, and you've just "rigged" the party barbeque by pouring lighter fuel all over it. You might have left a remote bomb under the telly in their front room and tranquilised their guard dog too. The next time you visit the level it could all play out completely differently. I love it :D
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Oh yeah it's totally open to experimentation, sandbox-y without being too sprawling and overwhelming, and varied enough to keep you coming back to try out new techniques and improve your rating. The feeling of satisfaction when you've orchestrated a perfectly clean hit with no witnesses and no shots fired is immense - you can use guns and there are plenty to unlock, much better to kill the cops by poisoning their donuts, or by dressing up as a binman and dumping victims in the back of a garbage truck though. On one mission you can execute an FBI agent who likes sniffing panties by drenching said knickers with poison for the next time he goes to indulge himself. All this whilst you're dressed as a clown at a kid's party with a kitchen knife concealed about your person, and you've just "rigged" the party barbeque by pouring lighter fuel all over it. You might have left a remote bomb under the telly in their front room and tranquilised their guard dog too. The next time you visit the level it could all play out completely differently. I love it :D
Have you played Hitman: Contracts? It is nearly as good, and could probably be picked up for peanuts these days.

Fuckin' love hitman, me. :D
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Stone wrote:Chromehounds, however, was cack. It plays more like a graphical demo than anything else - you don't feel in control, you don't even have a crosshair (eh?!) except for a crazy targeting camera in the top-right of the screen, movement feels clumsy and you can't change between normal and inverted Y axis in-game (why?!) which is infuriating if like me you prefer different settings based on the type of game and default camera angle. I see where they're coming from with the realism aspect but it made it very much unplayable for me.
If you click the right thumb stick it swaps views, pay to look over the control options first ;), doesn't make it any better really though, plus I think their name for invert-Y is invert-aim for some reason but I didn't have to set this option anyway as I already have it set from within the dashboard :D

Can't say I was too hot on it myself also... my first go of it I fell through the ground :?
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Ratsoap wrote:Have you played Hitman: Contracts? It is nearly as good, and could probably be picked up for peanuts these days.

Fuckin' love hitman, me. :D
Not played it yet but I bought a second hand version for a fiver at the weekend. Looking forward to it.
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After playing the 360 demo of Blood Money I went and brought the Xbox version at a knocked down price from local indy software shop. Loving the slowly slowly, gameplay and it certainly is grusome at times.

Had a quick play yesterday inbetween footy and fun in the sun with the kids. Will be hitting it hard again tonight (with a fan on me).
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Blood Money 360 was £32.99 at Gaystation earlier so I nabbed it :D

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Stone wrote:Blood Money 360 was £32.99 at Gaystation earlier so I nabbed it :D

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I found hitman on the 360 way to easy even on the higher settings. I zip through in 2 days. for 69 bucks its waste of money. but I rented it. I still had fun and cost me only 7.99


I'm waiting for prey now. played the demo which was cool, now waiting for the game. depending on how long the game is, I might pick it up. if 10+ hours its a rental. 20 hours I would pick it up.
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Imagine this. Two small children trapped in a room, scared as fuck. You’re standing behind a glass barrier, watching, unable to do a thing. Suddenly, the children start freaking out, and a ghostly daemon engulfs one of them, merging their bodies into one semi-translucent spirit. The body is discarded in an explosion of blood. The spirit looks meanly at the other child, who is shivering in terror, runs up, grabs her, and impales her through a steel pole sticking out from the side of the room as she screams her last desperate breaths.

Oh yeah. The Prey demo on 360 is awesome. :D
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Mr Meow wrote:I found hitman on the 360 way to easy even on the higher settings. I zip through in 2 days. for 69 bucks its waste of money. but I rented it. I still had fun and cost me only 7.99

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Did you play it as a run-n-gun and not bother with the Silent Assassin ratings? I've spent two days on individual levels alone, just scoping the situation out and planning my hit with style, and when I've got my method down I go back and refine it to absolute precision. You've gotta play it as a hard, cold, invisible killing machine who cares about the aesthetics of his craft, not as Rambo. If you played it that way and cleared it on the hardest levels in a weekend, say hello to the new Games Animal everyone.

Take the Opera level for instance, did you clear that level without firing a single bullet and escape without anyone seeing you?
Stone wrote:Blood Money 360 was £32.99 at Gaystation earlier so I nabbed it :D

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Nice. We'll have to start a thread and compare methods, I'll be interested to see how some of you sick puppies have been disposing of innocents who've "accidently" fallen to their deaths from balconies...
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The Prey demo reminded me a lot of the Stroggification scenes from Quake 4. Quite liked it, might trade in something later for it, but I doubt I'll get it at launch unless I'm really bored.

I am finding the twin sticks method of control for FPSes about the same as mouse and keyboard now, which scares me slightly :)
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