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GeeZa wrote:[In all seriousness, even though poor Snakester might be about to put a big DM boot through the screen of his new tech, I don't think Apple have a big reliability problem. It's just when things do go wrong with Apple kit people create websites about it and the issues are plastered all over the net within seconds. The one issue I can see with the new MacBook/Pro line is that there's an awful lot of powerful tech crammed into a thin case. The physics of cooling must be more difficult than the generally fatter Inspirons. But so far at least for me, fingers crossed, I've had no issues with my MacBook. That'll probably mean it all goes wrong tomorrow.
Well, the first one had a bad disk in mine, which is perfectly acceptable so I've got no problem with that and this whine seems to be a lot less noticeable on the 3rd one, it's still there but you can't hear it over the background hum of the fan now. Problem is it's one of them noises only some people can hear I think, but once you've heard it you hear it all the time. Lots of people have reported the same thing though so I dunno, but I did hear someone's Dell Pentium 3 laptop at work making the same noise so it's probably one of them within spec things.

Mine idles at about 60, but the bottom and certain parts of the top are warm to the touch and you're not meant to actually use it on your lap. (He says typing this in bed.)
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Oh fuck...

My Macbook Pro is now starting to hard power down after about 5 minutes with a full battery charge... This doesn't happen when it's running on normal power so it looks like I'm suffering the battery problem that loads of other people are getting.

The battery doesn't seem to be swollen as some seem to be getting, but according to the system profiler the maximum capacity is 201mAh - according to someone on teh internets this is "a bad thing".

Fuck fuck fuck... first a shagged router, now this... what next?

I'm off to email Apple... wish me luck.
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GeeZa wrote:In all seriousness, even though poor Snakester might be about to put a big DM boot through the screen of his new tech
Ah, there's no danger of that. I do *like* the thing, but...
GeeZa wrote:You still running hot Snakey?
Well, so far today it's been less hot, it's still a lot hotter than I'd like it to be, but at least it's not "I'm about to catch fire" hot.

I did install an update (10.4.7?) last night which I didn't know existed - silly me for believing the thing that told me my mac would "check for updates automatically" ;) Maybe this has helped ?

So, yeah, it's still hot, but this is probably "I can put up with it" hot. We'll see ;)

Oh yes - and before I did the update, after a while the whole machine started running *really* fucking slowly. I could type a whole sentence, and then watch as each letter appeared, one after the other, about half a second apart... Trying to switch to a different window or app resulted in the little spinning CD thingy appearing for about 10 seconds before the machine would respond again. No idea what that was all about, apparently there was only 2% CPU activity. Hasn't done that again since the update, either, though, so fingers crossed.

Apart from the heat, the only thing that's been pissing me off is the fact that page up/page down is on the cursor keys. Meaning that I have to hold ALT to use them, which means that when I also want to use SHIFT so I can mark a huge piece of text, page up/down doesn't work at the same time. Takes fuckin' ages...
GeeZa wrote:Be interesting to know what week yours was built, mines a week 20.
How do I find that out ?
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GeeZa wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:Just had a play on a 2.0 GHz MacBook Pro, very nice.
Ooh, that's Dell 1 - 1 Apple then. :D
It certainly had the snappy. Merom and Leopard are what I'm waiting
for but probably a Mini rather than a MacBook, I've decided that I
really want something pocketable for portable internetting. The next-gen
Nokia 770 or who knows the iPod Airport Video Extreme thingy. :)
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Njal wrote:My Macbook Pro is now starting to hard power down after about 5 minutes with a full battery charge... This doesn't happen when it's running on normal power so it looks like I'm suffering the battery problem that loads of other people are getting.
Just call Apple... I had the same problem, and they sent me a new battery and paid return postage for the original to be sent back to them. A pain, but at least it got resolved quickly and easily.

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Arnel wrote:
Njal wrote:My Macbook Pro is now starting to hard power down after about 5 minutes with a full battery charge... This doesn't happen when it's running on normal power so it looks like I'm suffering the battery problem that loads of other people are getting.
Just call Apple... I had the same problem, and they sent me a new battery and paid return postage for the original to be sent back to them. A pain, but at least it got resolved quickly and easily.

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Yeah, it should be fine... I'll be calling them tomorrow and hopfully it will just be that, and a replacement battery will fix it...

I'm seeing scare stories all over the place about replacing logic boards and all sorts of things... I really can't afford to be without the computer right now (not that any time is a good time of course). I'm just glad it works ok on normal power.

I'm just feeling like I'm jinxed in the tech department at the moment :) I've never had a hardware failure on any computer or piece of kit I've ever owned before.. now I've had two in one week!
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Yeah I think 10.4.7 might help Snakey, some people have reported that is has helped out. FWIW I think Software Update (in System Preferences) is checking for updates 'Weekly' by default which can be a bit slow to keep up with the latest and greatest. If you're brave you can change it to 'Daily'. Mine runs hot after World of Warcraft or other intensive apps but it cools down quickly, plus if I shut the lid and come back in about 20mins or so it's virtually back to cold. In normal use it's warm but not uncomfortably so, for me at least.

You can check the serial number by doing 'About This Mac' then clicking on 'Version' twice. Your week of production is the 4th and 5th numbers. I'm experiencing some slight slow-down too very occassionally but it goes away. OSX caches into RAM like a mad bastard, it's just one of those things you kinda live with. Know what you mean about page up/down. Hey at least there's a hash key now for PERL gurus..... :D

Oh, get Launchbar and MenuCalenderClock for two decent and useful pieces of shareware. And hold shift whilst double-clicking a window title bar for slow-mo minimise. :D Oh and a two-finger tap of the pad is a right-click. Apple must have nicked that off those finger-interface people they bought out.

All-in-all I'm impressed by the MacBook Of Doom so far. Touch wood.

Edit: One other tip for the heat is to set the profile to 'Better Energy Savings' by clicking on the battery icon in the menu bar. I found that helps cool things down.
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GeeZa wrote:plus if I shut the lid
Right now, that sounds like a bad idea - don't want to melt the screen ;)
GeeZa wrote:Your week of production is the 4th and 5th numbers.
26, then, apparently.
GeeZa wrote:I'm experiencing some slight slow-down too
My slowdown was pretty fucking far from slight ;) But I'll only worry if it happens again.
GeeZa wrote:Oh and a two-finger tap of the pad is a right-click. Apple must have nicked that off those finger-interface people they bought out.
Yeah. I'd heard about that one. But it doesn't seem to be working.
GeeZa wrote:All-in-all I'm impressed by the MacBook Of Doom so far. Touch wood.
Mine is called "Trogdor".
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GeeZa wrote:
GeeZa wrote:All-in-all I'm impressed by the MacBook Of Doom so far. Touch wood.
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Snakey wrote:Mine is called "Trogdor".
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RiK wrote:
Snakey wrote:Mine is called "Trogdor".
BURNINATE!!!
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Snakey: Isn't it possible that you have the "Thermal paste of doom" problem? Does the fan kick in very late? There's supposed to be easily usable software that shows if the CPU is throttling due to heat. Have you checked that out?

Due to the whole whiney noise and excessive heat FUD I got a Thinkpad instead of Mac, I regret missing out on OSX though :(

Especially since I sometimes get a Bios related issue where my T60 goes into sleep mode and the screen doesn't come on again. :evil:
What's with quality these days? Is Dell outshining both Apple and Big Blue?
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Snakey wrote:
GeeZa wrote:Oh and a two-finger tap of the pad is a right-click. Apple must have nicked that off those finger-interface people they bought out.
Yeah. I'd heard about that one. But it doesn't seem to be working.
System Preferences->Keyboard & Mouse. There's a tick-box for it, it's off by default.

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Kemper_Boyd wrote:Just had a play on a 2.0 GHz MacBook Pro, very nice.
This was in Curry's Digital (Dixons) in Kingston upon Thames,
they had a great deal for people who still want or need PowerPC.
17" 1.67 GHz G4, 128 MB Radeon 9700 PowerBook for ~ £750,
I don't know if it was the October 2005 DDR2 models, but either
way it still struck me as a hell of a good deal for people who
want PowerPC/Altivec support. I've no idea if other Curry's
or PC Worlds will be doing a similar deal but it might be worth
looking out for.
D'you know anywhere that still does PowerPC-based Mac Minis? Wouldn't mind one for experimenting on.
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Firefox wrote:D'you know anywhere that still does PowerPC-based Mac Minis? Wouldn't mind one for experimenting on.
That was, in fact, what I originally intended to get. But I couldn't find anywhere that was selling them cheap. The price stayed exactly the same when the Intel ones came out, for a couple of weeks, and then suddenly they didn't have them anymore. I would hate to think it's a case of "we'd rather destroy them than sell them cheap", but I can think of no other explanation... same thing happened with the iPod Minis - they had hundreds - and then they were all gone :?
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My Mum surprised me this weekend by going out and buying a MacBook with virtually no encouragement from me. She just ended up in the Apple Store, had a play with one, and decided that it would replace the laptop from work that she needs to return.

It's the first time I've had a chance to use one for any extended period of time and I'm completely smitten with it. Seriously tempted by a MacBook Pro to take to uni next year.
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