Is the XBox dead?

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:15 pm 0

Spoongod wrote:Well, Flatout and Burnout are very different by definition.

Have you played Flatout 2? It's blatantly a Burnout wannabe.

Jamesac wrote:Anyone have word on Xyanide? Twin-stick arcade shooter due out later this month for $20 on the Xbox. I haven't heard a thing about it, but I do like the twin-stick shooters quite a bit. I'll snag it out of morbid curiosity at the very least.

James

Haven't seen any mention of this for about 12 months, but the last preview on Gamespot was positive. Looked lovely with spunky 3D backdrops, loads of shiny particle FX and classic 2D gameplay, judging by the screenies and brief write-up.

Looking forward to that.

I see in Edge that The Red Star is finally getting a release, I've had the beta of it for a couple of years and it's superb.

Rhythm · Post by **Rhythm** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:18 pm 0

KidQuaalude wrote: you reckon? a bit shit, i thought. compares very badly to burnout imo...slow, and your car handles like a boat! the stunts are fun for a little while but I far prefer any of the burnout games to flatout 2.

I dislike the Burnout series in a big way. It's nothing more than Outrun with crashes. If I want fast arcade racing I'll go for RSC2. The Flatout games are more my sort of track racer when I'm wanting fun rather than physics.

Spoongod · Post by **Spoongod** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:23 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:
Spoongod wrote:Well, Flatout and Burnout are very different by definition.
Have you played Flatout 2? It's blatantly a Burnout wannabe.

Again, I'm reminded that assumption is the mother of all fuckups. I played the first one and was told Flatout 2 was more of the same, only with races in cities and such. Clearly that's not true. I'll reserve final judgement though.

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:31 pm 0

Rhythm wrote:The Flatout games are more my sort of track racer when I'm wanting fun rather than physics.

FlatOut is all about the physics though, surely? I remember the previews of the first game where it was referred to as "The Half Life II of racing" in relation to the amount of debris and destructible objects. I find that all the debris gets in the way and brings an unwelcome random element to the races, there's too much luck involved which leads to some cripplingly frustrating moments.

Rhythm · Post by **Rhythm** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:39 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:
Rhythm wrote:The Flatout games are more my sort of track racer when I'm wanting fun rather than physics.
FlatOut is all about the physics though, surely? I remember the previews of the first game where it was referred to as "The Half Life II of racing" in relation to the amount of debris and destructible objects. I find that all the debris gets in the way and brings an unwelcome random element to the races, there's too much luck involved which leads to some cripplingly frustrating moments.

Nah, I mean I generally race sims over arcade racers. Flatout's perfect for my sort of fun racing.

AMC-Campaign · Post by **AMC-Campaign** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:46 pm 0

A lot of colleagues of mine agree that the Xbox is now "retro" (which is sad for me because, DS aside, it's the most modern console I have, so I'm somewhat behind the times.

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Mind you, everyone has different ideas about this kind of stuff; I recently realised how many people still can't get over the bloody Dreamcast...

Jamesac · Post by **Jamesac** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:44 pm 0

To the best of my knowlege, though XS Games is finally bringing The Red Star out, they're doing PS2 only at the moment with Xbox undecided. I fired 'em off an e-mail encouraging to bring the Xbox version out, but never heard a thing back. I hope they do, but who knows.

And someone else has heard of Xyanide. Excellent, I was beginning to think I was the only one.

James

sack · Post by **sack** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:08 pm 0

since I decided to keep the xbox as 360 backwards compatibility isn't all its cracked up to be my bro has been raiding ebay and has piles of games flooding in for next to nothing. fantastic stuff!

Glyndwr · Post by **Glyndwr** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:36 pm 0

My local Tesco stopped selling Xbox games ages ago.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:20 pm 0

A couple of shops my way have stopped selling Xbox games as well. That's not just mk1 though, they don't even sell Xbox360 games either, which seems really weird; they just sell PS2 and handhelds.

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:00 pm 0

sack wrote:since I decided to keep the xbox as 360 backwards compatibility isn't all its cracked up to be my bro has been raiding ebay and has piles of games flooding in for next to nothing. fantastic stuff!

Yep - there's never been a better time to get one. The Gamecube's golden cheap era is waning a bit now - that variety is not what it was second hand a year ago, though maybe that's the 30 odd titles I've picked up dirt cheap in the 2 years I've had it. Now I've an XBox for peanuts and a couple of cracking games for it I've missed out on in my cube years so I'm well chuffed. When I want a few more, there's so much quality in the gamestation 4 for 20 quid racks I'll be spoilt for choice. Considering it is still the second most powerful console on the market and the only one more powerful can offer us the same thing at a slightly higher resolution/level of physical detail for hundreds of pounds more and I have to say I'm as happy as a pig in shit. If I had as many titles for it as I have the gamecube already though, I'd be wondering where my next big gaming love is going to come from. But of the currentish gen, XBox, Cube and a well stocked DS library leave me wanting for nothing.

I'd fucking love it if Neon ran on the original XBox though. The visualiser on that is a joke. Does it really only do that wavy line thing in fullscreen? No buttons seem to change anything. I suppose I can always run colourspace under emulation...

/edit for example - 20 quid could get you Ninja Gaiden, Fable, Forza or Rallisport 2 or Outrun 2, and Crimson Skies. Then get the GTA pack second hand for 20 odd quid and there's a spot on Â£40 collection to last you 6 months of solid gaming.

gilesgoat · Post by **gilesgoat** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:24 pm 0

Xbox is deader than dead
Shock is all in your head
Your Rez and your code is all that were fed
So fuck all your protests and put them to bed ...

God is in the T.V.

1,000 geeks are praying for it
We're so full of hope
And so full of shit
Build a new game to medicate and to ape
Sell us PS3 dressed up and real fake

Anything to behold

Rock is deader than dead

.. etc ..

- MM ?

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:12 am 0

Jamesac wrote: And someone else has heard of Xyanide. Excellent, I was beginning to think I was the only one.

James

I got a copy of the Xbox version, today. Looks really lovely, it's a twin stick Roby style affair with an Ikaruga bent. The gimmick being that you fire into the screen in three dimensions, rather than on a flat plane. Will post up some impressions later...

Glyndwr · Post by **Glyndwr** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:18 am 0

It's been really amusing looking at the offical mag in the shops. All the demos seem to be 'classics' and all the news is ongoing stories about scarface, star wars etc, etc. Each and every month all they seem to have a more pictures about the same unreleased games). Oh and a couple of pages of reviews. You can feel how thin it is now. I think the reason that they're putting the mags in bags is so that you can't see the contents.

I used to by this mag a lot. But no more.

pyroxian · Post by **pyroxian** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:22 am 0

As far as I know, Microsoft won't accept submissions for new X-Box games, so all that's left to come out is stuff that's already in development. Seems about right, as there's only about 1-2 new titles coming out a month.

Steve