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Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:
mightyzim wrote:.
looks like somebody didn't spend any time play testing this as Frogger in HD uses a quater of my screen
You can stretch the display after starting a game and pressing the start (pause) button and going to "options". Here you can also change to the "original" arcade graphics too.
Well I downloaded the Frogger trial game on Saturday. Hadn't read this thread lately, so I had no idea what to expect. Here's how it went:

1. Download. Cool.
2. Fire it up. WTF? The play-area is poxy thin strip down the centre of my HD screen.
3. Play two games like this, before pausing and THEN discovering the screen resize option.
4. Resize screen. Marvel at the 'enhanced' graphics and somewhat bleepy music.
5. Switch to Original mode. Hmm.
6. Delete.

Gotta say, I'm seriously disappointed. Notwithstanding the somewhat odd decision not to read the screen config and resize automatically, I wasn't impressed with the enhanced graphics, or the music (ok, so the original stuff wasn't available - put something new in, maybe?).

I was expecting more. More 2006-ness. I was expecting Frogger for the 360 generation. And what I saw was (probably) a faithful conversion of the arcade classic, which was actually not as good as MAME. I had more fun with Rabbits' "Frogger" on my VIC20, because although it wasn't faithful it pushed the envelope (at the time). This made my 360 look a bit, well, crap.

Heresy I know, but I thought it sucked.
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Istar wrote:Heresy I know, but I thought it sucked.
Not at all - you're quite entitled to your own opinion. :D

But i'd just point out that a couple of the other succesful games on XBLA (Gauntlet and Robotron) are exact ports of the arcade originals - much in the same way that Frogger is. Maybe it's just that Frogger doesn't have the same playability that these titles do?

I don't know to be honest - i've bought Frogger and am enjoying it. :)
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All the 'classic' games I've played on Live Arcade havn't done it for me. Smash TV at a push perhaps.
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I've played Gauntlet and Robotron quite a bit and I certainly think i've had my moneys worth.

Whilst i'm enjoying Frogger at the moment I have to be honest and say that I don't think it has the same longevity offered by either Gaunlet or Robotron.
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WiredWorm wrote:
Istar wrote:Heresy I know, but I thought it sucked.
Not at all - you're quite entitled to your own opinion. :D

But i'd just point out that a couple of the other succesful games on XBLA (Gauntlet and Robotron) are exact ports of the arcade originals - much in the same way that Frogger is. Maybe it's just that Frogger doesn't have the same playability that these titles do?

I don't know to be honest - i've bought Frogger and am enjoying it. :)
That's a good point. I do like Gauntlet, even though it's a straight port. Although the controls don't work quite right - can't seem to move and fire at the same time, but maybe that's just me being crap at it. ;)

Robotron I haven't tried yet. I dunno, maybe with Gauntlet I wanted the original experience, but with Frogger I wanted more. Fickle, me. :lol:
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But the other thing this raises is the nice fact that MS allow you to download Trials of any of the games available on XBLA.

It's nice to see them put their money where their mouth is and allow people to trial the titles before buying them - at least that way you can play for a while, make sure you like the game, before stumping up a nominal amount of cash for the full game.
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Istar wrote:Well I downloaded the Frogger trial game on Saturday. Hadn't read this thread lately, so I had no idea what to expect. Here's how it went:
To be perfectly honest, Frogger is not really a game I'd personally like to have seen on XBLA. A bit *too* old skool, IMO.

Having said that, though, plenty of people seem to like it enough to actually buy it.

But really, what did you expect? This is in the "Coin Op Classics" section. It's not a new game, and it never claimed to be. It's Frogger, with graphics that look a bit better, and sound that sounds a bit better, but otherwise, the gameplay remains faithful to the original, warts an' all. Does what it says on the tin.

If that's not your cup of tea, fair play to you. But you WILL see other "Coin Op Classics" on there that make no attempt to enhance anything at all...
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Snakey wrote:
Istar wrote:Well I downloaded the Frogger trial game on Saturday. Hadn't read this thread lately, so I had no idea what to expect. Here's how it went:
To be perfectly honest, Frogger is not really a game I'd personally like to have seen on XBLA. A bit *too* old skool, IMO.

Having said that, though, plenty of people seem to like it enough to actually buy it.

But really, what did you expect? This is in the "Coin Op Classics" section. It's not a new game, and it never claimed to be. It's Frogger, with graphics that look a bit better, and sound that sounds a bit better, but otherwise, the gameplay remains faithful to the original, warts an' all. Does what it says on the tin.

If that's not your cup of tea, fair play to you. But you WILL see other "Coin Op Classics" on there that make no attempt to enhance anything at all...
I wasn't expecting to enjoy the game having only played it once before and thinking it was rubbish. Downloaded the demo and ended up buying the game, the music is rubbish but that just meant that I could happily play custom sound tracks from my hard disk and played the game for far longer than I was expecting too.

On a side note looking forward to the release of cloning clyde this wednesday, looks like a fun old/new skool platform game
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Snakey wrote:But you WILL see other "Coin Op Classics" on there that make no attempt to enhance anything at all...
I guess many here like myself prefer the originals anyway and arent bothered with new visuals, that said though I'm sure MS tart them up to hopefully appeal to younger kids who were reared on a Playstation.

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mamemeister wrote:I guess many here like myself prefer the originals anyway and arent bothered with new visuals, that said though I'm sure MS tart them up to hopefully appeal to younger kids who were reared on a Playstation.
That's it exactly, and yeah, I agree :)
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I'm old, and a bit simple-minded. I bought Frogger without trying the demo, and never gave it a second thought. The editors on XBLA appear to be pretty good and haven't certified any crap yet IMHO. I'd love to peek inside Digital Eclipse's offices to see what they have in the pipe. It looks like they're doing all of the conversions, doesn't it? I suspect the other Konami conversions (Scramble, Time Pilot) will get the same treatment as Frogger. I'm hoping they'll do something special for Defender.

The Rockstar Table Tennis demo is coming "very soon." My money is on tonight or tomorrow, right along with Cloning Clyde by the NinjaBee team. Woot!

http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006 ... -demo.aspx

Then next week it's Galaga, right? VERY oldschool, but I don't think you'll hear anyone complain about that. The visual aspect ratio will (again) be fucked up, but that's what we get for trying to run portrait games in wide landscape mode.
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Flojomojo wrote: The Rockstar Table Tennis demo is coming "very soon." My money is on tonight or tomorrow, right along with Cloning Clyde by the NinjaBee team. Woot!

http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006 ... -demo.aspx
Demos and such usually appear on Fridays, so it may be here in a few days. :)
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Wednesday tomorrow so there should be a new XBLA game up (Clyde I think)
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mightyzim wrote:Wednesday tomorrow so there should be a new XBLA game up (Clyde I think)
Yup.
July 18 will see the release of the original platform action game Cloning Clyde, followed on July 25 by the classic arcade shooter Galaga. August 1 will have the long awaited Xbox Live Arcade premiere of the classic Capcom fighting game Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting. August 9 will see the premiere of the classic arcade game Pac-Man on Xbox Live Arcade
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