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Flojomojo wrote:
Anders wrote:
D.J.Fudge wrote:42 All-Time Classics (Nintendo) 29 Sep 2006
Do we know which classics are included in this one?
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Wouldn't it be nice to finally see an authorized Nintendo compilation? Unfortunately, they pretty much missed their chance at this, since emulation and Famiclone pirates got there first with better collections at miniscule prices. As much as I want to like the Wii's virtual console, I cna't shake the feeling that I already have that, thanksverymuch.

Drunkula's probably right -- card and board games are far more likely than a proper Nintendo retro collection on DS. :cry:
And let's not forget that Nintendo loves to resell us the same games over and over again, and each time charging far too much. Even at 20 bucks, the original Mario is not worth it. Put All the NES marios on one card at 20 bucks, then I'd be happy. It's really one of my only gripes with nintendo.
Hopefully the virtual console games will be cheap. I've never really gotten into emulation, so I hope to get those games back on the Wii.
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I'm such a Nintendo bitch, I'll probably buy all that stuff on the virtual console. Except the Zelda stuff, as I already have the Zelda Collectors Edition GameCube disk. Although, I'd definitely like Zelda III: A Link to the Past on the VC.

I'd also like to see: -

All the 2D Metroid games.
Super Mario All-Stars (but including Super Mario World this time)
Super Punchout
Megaman 1, 2 and 3 (2 being the best.....love it!)
Oh what the hell, probably all the Castlevania games, too.
Wizards and Warriors (I think)
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Thinking....

It would be nice if there was some sort of capability on the virtual console to download "specials" for certain old games.....like, say, the making of Megaman or old TV adverts for Super Mario and such. Like special features you get on DVDs.
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marf wrote:Put All the NES marios on one card at 20 bucks, then I'd be happy. It's really one of my only gripes with nintendo.
I'll let you know how this turns out.
http://www.ioffer.com/wholeStory.do?txnID=834894
Of course, PocketNES on GBA is the right way to do this. :wink:

The only thing stopping me from getting a Wii is that I won't be able to retire my Gamecube. Yes, the new machine will be backwards-compatible, but they won't have a Gameboy slot on it. That's one of my favorite aspects of the Cube.

RageMatrix, you can play most of your list on the GBA right now.
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Flojomojo wrote: RageMatrix, you can play most of your list on the GBA right now.
I know......but I don't wanna :) I want all this stuff on the Wii. Sure, I could buy most of that stuff for my GBM, but.....but.....I don't know. Perhaps its just because I want to play it on the TV or support the Wii's VC or whatever. Besides, I'm going to get a bit of a kick by downloading this stuff off the net straight to my Wii :D

Or perhaps I just want the combo of Wii/DS to be my all-singing, all-dancing alter to all things Nintendo.
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DS and Wii will link together, so expect to see DS demos and downloads on Wii24.
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marf wrote:Even at 20 bucks, the original Mario is not worth it.
That's crazy. I don't regret buying NSMB at 35 bucks, and the original SMB is like five times better. I'd easily pay 20, even 35 bucks for it.

And yeah, I agree, RageMatrix - gotta have that stuff on Wii :)

...and I too have the Zelda disc, but the frame rate on MM is so bad I'm gonna have to download it. I can't play it, it makes me seasick :?

Iwata and Miyamoto said that old games will have the same graphics, but improved frame rates and draw distances. It's gonna rock to play N64 classics at 60fps with no pop-in 8)
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marf wrote:Even at 20 bucks, the original Mario is not worth it.
That's crazy. I don't regret buying NSMB at 35 bucks, and the original SMB is like five times better. I'd easily pay 20, even 35 bucks for it.
The problem isn't paying 35bucks for NSMB or any other new Mario game for that matter, it's more the fact that the older versions have already made their money, several times over, so give 'em to us cheap, y'know? I've paid for it once(at least), that should kind of suffice...

I guess it's kind of like replacing your vinyl with cds and then MP3s, at least you can convert cd to MP3.
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marf wrote:
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marf wrote:Even at 20 bucks, the original Mario is not worth it.
That's crazy. I don't regret buying NSMB at 35 bucks, and the original SMB is like five times better. I'd easily pay 20, even 35 bucks for it.
The problem isn't paying 35bucks for NSMB or any other new Mario game for that matter, it's more the fact that the older versions have already made their money, several times over, so give 'em to us cheap, y'know? I've paid for it once(at least), that should kind of suffice...

I guess it's kind of like replacing your vinyl with cds and then MP3s, at least you can convert cd to MP3.
Gotcha :wink:

I was just talking about the real value of the experience the game offers.

I have a kind of test when gauging the worth of music, movies and games that I've bought. I say, "If I lose this tomorrow, will I actually go out and buy another copy at full price?"

It's a pretty vicious test, and few actually make the cut. But SMB is one of them :wink:
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namor7 wrote:
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marf wrote:Even at 20 bucks, the original Mario is not worth it.
That's crazy. I don't regret buying NSMB at 35 bucks, and the original SMB is like five times better. I'd easily pay 20, even 35 bucks for it.
The problem isn't paying 35bucks for NSMB or any other new Mario game for that matter, it's more the fact that the older versions have already made their money, several times over, so give 'em to us cheap, y'know? I've paid for it once(at least), that should kind of suffice...

I guess it's kind of like replacing your vinyl with cds and then MP3s, at least you can convert cd to MP3.
Gotcha :wink:

I was just talking about the real value of the experience the game offers.

I have a kind of test when gauging the worth of music, movies and games that I've bought. I say, "If I lose this tomorrow, will I actually go out and buy another copy at full price?"

It's a pretty vicious test, and few actually make the cut. But SMB is one of them :wink:
I'll pay £3 for it on wii's virtual console. no more.
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namor7 wrote:It's a pretty vicious test, and few actually make the cut. But SMB is one of them :wink:
And the fact that you can buy the NES cartridge for 5p, or download all 32K of the ROM for free, doesn't faze you in the least?

I have several different legit versions of SMB, so I feel *completely* justified in copying it to play on different devices for my own amusement. The little fucker should be in the public domain, in my humble opinion.

But yes, it's a good game.
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Flojomojo wrote:And the fact that you can buy the NES cartridge for 5p, or download all 32K of the ROM for free, doesn't faze you in the least?
No....now that you come to mention it, not in the least. Weird, huh?
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namor7 wrote: And yeah, I agree, RageMatrix - gotta have that stuff on Wii :)

...and I too have the Zelda disc, but the frame rate on MM is so bad I'm gonna have to download it. I can't play it, it makes me seasick :?

Iwata and Miyamoto said that old games will have the same graphics, but improved frame rates and draw distances. It's gonna rock to play N64 classics at 60fps with no pop-in 8)
Never played MM on anything but the GC.....so I have no problems with it.
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RageMatrix wrote:
Flojomojo wrote:And the fact that you can buy the NES cartridge for 5p, or download all 32K of the ROM for free, doesn't faze you in the least?
No....now that you come to mention it, not in the least. Weird, huh?
Yeah. I wish you guys (and although some parts of this might apply, don't take this too personally as it's a pretty general rant) weren't such slaves to this stuff, it makes companies like Nintendo think they can continually repackage the same stuff at exorbitant prices simply because the market will bear it and they make a profit, when the technology exists to make it so much better in so many ways. It means more mature and rational people don't have any options because corporations continue to pander to profits. As Flojomojo said, I've paid for some games so many times over that I feel completely justified in format shifting it. Public Domain, what's that? :lol: :x

It's almost as if it's the sheer thrill of spending money that truely entertains. Think about it, if the capability existed that you could dig out a box of dusty old NES carts and load them into the Wii, would it be nearly as exciting? Would you bother? Obviously it would be nice to be able to purchse roms in a nice VirtualConsole online storeif you didn't already own the cartridge, but the option to rip a cart would be nice too. One might argue that the time required to do so would be a downfall, but how much time can one realistically dedicate towards replaying and re-re-replaying _every_ Mario, Zelda, Metroid, RPG, plus have time to play any new games, let alone have anything like a social life, skill development, exercise, or a job! I love SMB1 but I only play a bit here and there anymore, and I love lots of other old and new games but there is only so much time.. So overall, the only thing that makes it 'new' is that it's on a 'different' console and that you paid more new money for it! A demonstration of spending power and thus personal value? Collect-o-mania? Some other reason?

Look at the iPod, and iTMS, and then compare the closed nature of the Wii (to the consumer), would one be so excited about buying a new MP3 player that can only play copies of the same song you already might own on CD if you first repurchase them online?

I guess part of this (particularly in relation to the VirtualConsole) can be explained by an unfamiliarity with emulation (and the VC is an emulator; it will be interesting to see how accurate the finer details are) and romsets. But I also guess that some of my frustration stems from similar situations with other new tech stuff. And other people outside this community do it with other things; car people having to have more car stuff, etc. No, I don't want to see people forced to live one way or another, but some discretion also seems warranted; people are starving and whatnot! I mean for all the America bashing, there is serious environmental impact from the gadgets consumed all across the world,* shipping them, etc. And all the purchasing power spent buying yet another copy of the same tired ROM or some fancier chrome wheels could do a lot to fix serious problems in the world.

Still, I hope they eventually do a demo mode in Virtual Console, where you can download any game and play a few minutes of it before the demo times out. But that might be too customer friendly; it would be great to try out games before buying them but then there may be fewer sales.

I would think $1 per game is reasonable for NES games, think about how easily you could create a list of games you might like to try and occasionally play. 100 games here on NES, 100 SNES games, a couple dozen N64 titles,.,. it's going to start adding up fast and if the price is any more than 99 cents a title it will get be easy to desire a $500 investment in Virtual Console titles that could easily be distributed for free. It would be a great sales incentive for the Wii and great for gamers, and it would hardly cost Nintendo anything. Even if they manage to be as successful as the iTMS (which I think is probably doubtful for the forseeable future), the VC can't represent a significant cash source for Nintendo compared to new games and hardware, and they are a multi billion dollar company anyway. Apple certainly couldn't do the same thing with iTMS (free MP3s for Mac users) since they don't own the IP (and the IP would represent a significant cost to them) but given that Nintendo owns the IP and could do some built in P2P distribution method they could do it for a relatively low development cost if they really wanted to..

Blah blah blah... what a rant ;)


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