Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

zbandito · Post by **zbandito** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:23 am 0

w000t!!

zbandito · Post by **zbandito** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:23 am 0

w0000t!!!

namor7 · Post by **namor7** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:31 am 0

Woah

Hehe, I was just stating the game's worth to me, that's all. And yes, I know of all the ways I could obtain the game, and have no problems with any of them.

What I was trying to point out with my 'test' comment was that there are *extremely* few games that actually pass the test, not that I'm some kind of slave to Nintendo. I'm not, I, um...I swear! (...

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In all reality, we won't be paying more than a few bucks for the game on the Virtual Console. We've got nothing to worry about

Jamesac · Post by **Jamesac** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:51 am 0

Until Nintendo announces official pricing for everything from the system to the games on Virtual Console, I'm staying away from speculation. Or stating outright how much I think they'll be. Nintendo is known for keeping game prices high on their stuff for a good long while. We'll see how it goes.

James

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:05 am 0

Nintendo don't force anyone to buy their "repacked" mario-games, much like George Lucas and Star Wars. They are probably intended for a new generation of fans that never experienced them back when they were originally released.

If you already own half a dozen copies of the original SMB and then buy the GBA-version for 30 quid, it's your own damn fault.

I have personally never owned a copy of the first three mario-games, but I have them emulated. But when they are released on the Wii, I'll be first in line

RageMatrix · Post by **RageMatrix** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:48 am 0

zbandito wrote:WARNING EXTENDED GENERAL RANT

RageMatrix wrote:
Flojomojo wrote:And the fact that you can buy the NES cartridge for 5p, or download all 32K of the ROM for free, doesn't faze you in the least?
No....now that you come to mention it, not in the least. Weird, huh?
Yeah. I wish you guys (and although some parts of this might apply, don't take this too personally as it's a pretty general rant) weren't such slaves to this stuff, it makes companies like Nintendo think they can continually repackage the same stuff at exorbitant prices simply because the market will bear it and they make a profit, when the technology exists to make it so much better in so many ways. It means more mature and rational people don't have any options because corporations continue to pander to profits. As Flojomojo said, I've paid for some games so many times over that I feel completely justified in format shifting it. Public Domain, what's that?

I hardly see how that makes you more "mature" or "rational" than me, frankly and I resent the implication that I'm somehow not.

Fact: I like Nintendo's stuff and I'm willing to pay for it. If you don't and you're not, then buy something else - Maturity and rationality have nothing to do with it. I never bought the originals on the NES, so this time around I'm willing to hand over money for the pleasure...especially seeing as Nintendo seem to be the only corporation actually making an effort this generation, both on handhelds and main consoles.

I'm not willing to deny myself something I want and feel is worth money simply because you'd prefer to get something for nothing.

Don't get me wrong - if you want to download an emulator and those ROMs for nothing - fine by me - knock yourself out. But if you want to play this stuff on the Wii you'll have to pay for it (and it'll be next to nothing anyway).

Pity.....after that, I couldn't be bothered to read any more.

Roobarb · Post by **Roobarb** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:56 am 0

Marius wrote:If you already own half a dozen copies of the original SMB and then buy the GBA-version for 30 quid, it's your own damn fault.

Exactly. Personally i found a lot of value in the GBA versions, meaning i can play them on the move. And as you say it also allowed a whole new generation of players to experience these great games for the first time.

Marius wrote:Nintendo don't force anyone to buy their "repacked" mario-games, much like George Lucas and Star Wars.

*This is my own personal opinion*, but to me there are significant differences between Nintendo and Lucas:

Firstly, Nintendo use their franchises to finance development of new and interesting games ideas. The games market would be a much poorer place without them. Lucas on the other hand has done woefully little in terms of funnelling the billions he's made from Star Wars into new interesting creative projects. He has however managed to increase his personal net worth to $3.5billion.

Secondly, (as far as i'm aware) Nintendo have only rereleased the original Mario games once (on the GBA) and SM64 on the DS. Games like Zelda they've actually given away for free, and there were a whole load of NES games bundled into Animal Crossing. I hardly see that as milking the market. Compare that with Lucas's perennial repackaging of the Star Wars series with minor tweaks. Sure, re-releasing on a new format DVD was welcome and necessary, but what about all the other special editions and repackinging with different numbers of disks, and only re-releasing the original prints on DVD after pretty much anyone wanting to just buy the original versions is guaranteed to have given up and bought the reworked versions.

If Nintendo are profiteering, then Lucas is Captain Jack Bloody Sparrow.

Flojomojo · Post by **Flojomojo** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:06 pm 0

Roobarb wrote:If Nintendo are profiteering, then Lucas is Captain Jack Bloody Sparrow.

So how would you cast companies such as Activision, Midway, Taito, Konami, and Atari, all of whom have given up huge chunks of their back catalog for next to nothing? Whores, or perhaps just desperate suckers?

Nintendo's treatment of its IP is Disneyesque at best. Fortunately, they're big and beloved to the point where even widespread emulation by the relatively hardcore few isn't really going to hurt the Wii's chances.

Wii looks cute, Virtual Console is a good (if late) idea, and I like old games. I'll wait and see, but the fact that I have all their stuff on (modded) XBOX already makes it dificult to justify. I'll wait and see. Your mileage my vary!

radio · Post by **radio** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:22 pm 0

Roobarb wrote: Secondly, (as far as i'm aware) Nintendo have only rereleased the original Mario games once (on the GBA)

All Stars on the SNES
Super Mario DX on the GBC.

Although I do agree, Nintend always add something in to make it a little bit more than the last time, which is nice, although not Â£30 nice each time:p

Roobarb · Post by **Roobarb** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:34 pm 0

Flojomojo wrote:
Roobarb wrote:If Nintendo are profiteering, then Lucas is Captain Jack Bloody Sparrow.
So how would you cast companies such as Activision, Midway, Taito, Konami, and Atari, all of whom have given up huge chunks of their back catalog for next to nothing? Whores, or perhaps just desperate suckers?

Nintendo's treatment of its IP is Disneyesque at best. Fortunately, they're big and beloved to the point where even widespread emulation by the relatively hardcore few isn't really going to hurt the Wii's chances.

Wii looks cute, Virtual Console is a good (if late) idea, and I like old games. I'll wait and see, but the fact that I have all their stuff on (modded) XBOX already makes it dificult to justify. I'll wait and see. Your mileage my vary!

Not sure what you mean. Are you referring to stuff like Midway Arcade Treasures and Atari GamersFirst? If so, then Atari's pricing doesn't seem great value to me at $19.99 in the US, especially for a Steam download. Midway's pricing at around $19 for 20 games is ok, but there's only about 5 worth playing on any one collection, so let's say $4/game. I'd hope Nintendo would price it's Virtucal Console NES games cheaper to be honest (although i'd pay up to $5 for a AAA title). I do think the NES Classics GBA pricing is too high, but given the cartridge/distribution/retailer costs i can see how it works out that way.

Does Nintendo whore its old IP to the same extent Disney has? I wouldn't say so thus far (comparing what they have and what they've actually re-released), although we've yet to see what they do with the Virtual Console. For sure the Mario characters have been overused, but i don't really care much about that as long as the new Mario branded games that come out are good quality. If you make the same game and brand it Mario and get 5x the sales you'd be daft not to really.

Radio wrote:All Stars on the SNES
Super Mario DX on the GBC.
Although I do agree, Nintend always add something in to make it a little bit more than the last time, which is nice, although not Â£30 nice each time :p

Righto

i took a timeout from gaming in the 90's, in favour of beer and chasing women, so my knowledge is a little rusty...
Actually i only paid Â£16 for the Super Mario Advance games - bought them in the USA. I think that was a fair price.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:09 pm 0

Of course you cannot directly compare what Mr. Lucas is doing with his Star Wars movies and what Nintendo is doing with their games, it would be much better to compare it with what they did with the DS and DS Lite, but the general idea is; if you don't like it, don't buy it...nobody is forcing you.

namor7 · Post by **namor7** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:21 pm 0

i took a timeout from gaming in the 90's, in favour of beer and chasing women, so my knowledge is a little rusty...

That's a fantastic line

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:32 pm 0

Opera DS in action.

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:39 pm 0

Cool.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:28 pm 0

Very nice. I'll be getting that one.