Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

betamax · Post by **betamax** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:38 pm 0

IronGiant wrote:Who cares what it looks like and how many bleedin' pixels, etc that it has? I, for one, do not give a flying fig.

This thread's repeat clearthinking award goes to...

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:16 pm 0

betamax wrote:
IronGiant wrote:Who cares what it looks like and how many bleedin' pixels, etc that it has? I, for one, do not give a flying fig.
This thread's repeat clearthinking award goes to...

So, seriously, why shouldn't people care how a game looks like, Betamax?

namor7 · Post by **namor7** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:54 am 0

'Official' Wii specs:

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8802

The Wii Hardware

- Nintendo Wiiâ€™s â€˜Broadwayâ€™ CPU operates at 729MHZ with a maximum bandwith of 1.9gbyte/sec.
- Nintendo Wiiâ€™s â€˜HollyWoodâ€™ GPU is clocked at 243MHZ, the internal memory of it includes 3mb of embedded graphics memory and 24megabytes of high speed main memory.
- 64megabytes of GDDR3 (MEM2) as the external main memory. Just like the internal memory, it can be accessed from the CPU and GPU with a maximum bandwidth of 4gbytes/sec and can also store programs in the MEM2.
- The GPU of the Wii is identical to the GCâ€™s but it is on average 1.5X faster.

Wii's Optical Disc Drive

- Opitcal Disc Drive (ODD) supports single and dual layer Wii disks, discs eject with software or button and the maximum read speed is the equivalent of DVDx6.
- Two main disc types supported the single sided 12cm single sided 4.7gb and the double sided 8.51 GB. Nintendo GC discs also supported. Some of the capacity of the discs are used by the system and games can not use full disc space.
- Inserting a disc will start the Wii console, even if it was already in an off state. Pressing the eject button will change the console to an on state to take out the disc also.

General Overview

- An optional wired LAN adapter that connects to a USB port is in the pipeline for users who do not possess a wireless LAN set-up currently.
- Internal non-removable 512MB flash memory used to storage game save data and downloadable content thus eliminating the Need for a memory card.
- Both Wii discs and Gamecube discs can be played via an intelligent mode swap. When running in GC mode, the Wiiâ€™s CPU and GPU will lower to the respective speeds of the GC and some of the MEM2 functions as ARAM.
- Software development environment is an upgrade to the â€˜Dolphin SDKâ€™ used with the GC; the same libraries are used so developers can get up to scratch easily as well as the possibility of ports being easier.
- The following interfaces are included with the Wii; SD card slot, Wireless controller, two USB 2.0 ports, wireless LAN, 4x GC controller ports, 2x GC memory card slots and an AV multi output jack (only an analog jack).
- Supports Wii disks (one sided 12cm) and GC discs (one sided 8cm) and console auto switches depends on what disk is inserted
- More than just the Nunchaku is planned as an extension. GC peripherals such as DK bongos can be used in both Wii and GC modes.
- Three power status, on, off and unplugged. To prevent mistaken turn offs, the power button must be held for about a second.

The Wii Control System

- The Wii controller features; Direct Pointing Device, Three axis accelerometer, Wii power button (remotely turn console on/off), buttons, wireless connectivity, indicator LEDâ€™s, rumble, battery powered (two AA alkaline batteries) and ability to connect extension unit.
- The Wii controller supports three types of operations; by itself, with a nunchuk extension or with a classic controller. Classic controllers will ship to developers during August 2006.
- The SYNCHRO button on the Wii controller exchanges wireless ID numbers when pressed at the same time as SYNCRHO on the Wii console. Wireless communications are only possible with consoles which have been authenticated.
- The rumble motor can be turned on and off and the intensity can be changed.
- The Wii remote has a pointer for fine movements as well as a motion sensor +/- 3.4G suitable for larger body movements, the nunchuk attachment has a sensor of +/- 2G
- The sensor bar must be placed above or below a TV set, the pointer measures coordinates between the ends of the bar which are about 20cm apart.
- The Wii remote has four status, disconnected, communicating, establishing connection and pairing wait status.
- The pointer can measure co-ordinates within bounds of rectangle centered upon the sensor bar, thus it can also measure points beyond the screen. It also responds to strong light sources, windows, fluorescent lamps, fireplaces, mirrors etc.
- Due to players hands shaking while holding the controller, a ring buffer allows a precise direction to be created to hold and average accelerator samples.

Bad grammar. Take it with a big grain of salt.

Perkunas · Post by **Perkunas** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:36 am 0

Would Wii have to alter it's clockspeed for GameCube BC I wonder? It would make sense to let the system run on identical specs, or specs that give even better performance.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:09 am 0

In the news today, Free Radical will not be releasing upcoming FPS "Haze" on the Wii, because it just doesn't have the horsepower required.

There are currently no plans for a Wii version of Haze. Sadly, the cutting-edge technology we're using requires more power than the Wii has available. If we could, we would.

Source.

Cue comments about how Free Radical are just lazy, that you hate FPS shooters, etc.

grue · Post by **grue** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:14 am 0

Anders wrote:In the news today, Free Radical will not be releasing upcoming FPS "Haze" on the Wii, because it just doesn't have the horsepower required.

There are currently no plans for a Wii version of Haze. Sadly, the cutting-edge technology we're using requires more power than the Wii has available. If we could, we would.
Source.

Cue comments about how Free Radical are just lazy, that you hate FPS shooters, etc.

Fair enough. Better than if they made a half arsed port with cropped graphics and sounds.

namor7 · Post by **namor7** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:16 am 0

Free Radical's just lazy. I hate first-person shooters.

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:37 am 0

If those specs are to be believed then this message will be the norm rather than the exception. Seriously, if companies are designing their next gen engines around multiple CPUs and shader based gpus then it'll be far more than just a trivial port to make games work on the Wii.

Also makes me wonder whether the screenshots from the early Rayman videos were ever obtainable on this specification machine...

Cheers

Bubba

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:41 am 0

Yep, I for one don't want ports that suffer from the more light weight specs. Wii, for me, is all about new experiences and a different kind of gameplay. Can't wait to play the first game that uses the Wiimote as beautifully as F-Zero GX uses the 'old' control system.

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:53 am 0

Nice quick interview with Free Radical's Goldeneye starring D.Doak, talking about Wii & FPS's, good stuff :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFLKC3iZgGM

Samus wrote: This one shows new info about the drumming demo in E3:

http://www.gwn.com/movies/play.php/f/220

And more drumming, 22secs here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G6TXRZqui0&search=wii

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:35 pm 0

I think what I look forward to the most on the Wii are the music "games" (like the drumming mentioned above). Hopefully there will be a Guitar Hero-style game for the Wii or the 360...

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:56 pm 0

That link has been updated with more details.
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8802

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:26 pm 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote:That link has been updated with more details.
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8802

Erm.. translation required for clueless numpties like myself, please KB

namor7 · Post by **namor7** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:07 pm 0

phattslagg wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:That link has been updated with more details.
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8802
Erm.. translation required for clueless numpties like myself, please KB

I'll second that!

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:11 pm 0

Gamecube x 1.5 Basically, faster processor and faster graphics chip. Still very similar to the gamecube architecturally with the addition of a wodge of GDDR3 ram and some flash memory for storing virtual console titles on.

Otherwise, nothing special (or at least nothing special in these specs). No shaders, no fancy physics processors and no 3d projector in the front

At an educated guess, I'd say performance levels similar or slightly greater than an original xbox.

Cheers

Bubba