FOOTBALL: Season 2006/07 Discussion Thread

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:40 pm 0

Flabio wrote:
GeeZa wrote:playing with your dad as manager doesn't really work
Two words: Nigel Clough.

I was thinking of him as I typed that sentence. He's probably an exception, still I wonder how many people at the club were muttering nepotism behind his back. I guess the only other mild success I can think of would be the Redknapps at Portsmouth but Jamie left pretty sharpish didn't he?

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:03 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:As anyone who's played any level of football knows, playing with your dad as manager doesn't really work (other players always think favouritism) so I'm guessing he needed to leave Birmingham at some point.

At amateur level it is particularly pertinent. I think every 11-a-side team I've ever played in has had the son of the manager (often one of the less gifted players) being picked every week. To be fair, I think that as much as anything it is that the dad can't asses their son's performance with a level head and really does believe that they make the most valuable contribution to the team.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:02 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:
Flabio wrote:
GeeZa wrote:playing with your dad as manager doesn't really work
Two words: Nigel Clough.
I was thinking of him as I typed that sentence. He's probably an exception, still I wonder how many people at the club were muttering nepotism behind his back. I guess the only other mild success I can think of would be the Redknapps at Portsmouth but Jamie left pretty sharpish didn't he?

I don't think Jamie was ever at Pompey. They were both at Southampton.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:09 pm 0

Guru-Meditation wrote:
GeeZa wrote:
Flabio wrote:
GeeZa wrote:playing with your dad as manager doesn't really work
Two words: Nigel Clough.
I was thinking of him as I typed that sentence. He's probably an exception, still I wonder how many people at the club were muttering nepotism behind his back. I guess the only other mild success I can think of would be the Redknapps at Portsmouth but Jamie left pretty sharpish didn't he?
I don't think Jamie was ever at Pompey. They were both at Southampton.

I think I mean Bournemouth, or Poole, or one of those. When he was young I think Liverpool bought him from one of those south coast teams when his dad was a manager. Might be totally wrong of course, usually am.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:17 pm 0

Probably the Cherries then.

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:05 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:
Flabio wrote:
GeeZa wrote:playing with your dad as manager doesn't really work
Two words: Nigel Clough.
I was thinking of him as I typed that sentence. He's probably an exception, still I wonder how many people at the club were muttering nepotism behind his back.

Not that many by all accounts. Mr. Clough was really hard on young Nigel, he got a rougher ride tha his contemporaries and he was well liked as an individual - plus he certainly earned his keep on the pitch. Rarely could it be argued Forest had 2 better strikers in the squad than him. Plus he could drop back effectively and thus he played a hell of a lot of games, and is our top goalscorer of all time. Not bad for Daddy's boy. He never made the best of himself as a player one way or another though. It's a shame he and Sheringham didn't have more time to gel properly, perhaps had they done so Shearer might not have got up and running so soon, we might have seen Nigel and Teddy or Ian Wright up front more often. Then again look at Neal Webb - he should have done much more. Forest's history is full of such players. For England, only Pearce, Anderson and Shilton have really done everything they possibly could for the National Team.

Stan Collymore. Christ, if he'd stayed at Forest and carried on improving where would he, Forest and England be now? Fucking shame, that.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:15 pm 0

Wasn't all that bad for Colly. He got with Sharon Stone. Many men would call that a highlight

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:07 am 0

So, how on earth does Deadly Doug do it? First he bags O'Leary, now O'Neill...

Is it always "Don't worry lads, I'm leaving in a couple of months. Probably."?

Munky · Post by **Munky** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:29 pm 0

Dio wrote:So, how on earth does Deadly Doug do it? First he bags O'Leary, now O'Neill...

Is it always "Don't worry lads, I'm leaving in a couple of months. Probably."?

I reckon that's the way he's done it this time. There's no way O'Neill would come knowing how tight Doug can be with the transfer kitty. Also, shit as we are at the moment, the club's got a massive history and he probably fancies a pop at becoming the hero who revives it.

It hasn't been announced as 100% certain yet, but I've been hearing all week it's pretty much a done deal. Press conference takes place this evening, apparently.

All the rumours point to Randy Lerner taking over as well, which is a bit of a mixed blessing in my opinion.

rockwaldo · Post by **rockwaldo** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:40 pm 0

Dio wrote:So, how on earth does Deadly Doug do it? First he bags O'Leary, now O'Neill...

Is it always "Don't worry lads, I'm leaving in a couple of months. Probably."?

O'Leary is piss easy to hire - he's a completely dismal manager.

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:53 pm 0

rockwaldo wrote:
Dio wrote:So, how on earth does Deadly Doug do it? First he bags O'Leary, now O'Neill...

Is it always "Don't worry lads, I'm leaving in a couple of months. Probably."?
O'Leary is piss easy to hire - he's a completely dismal manager.

I think his stock was quite high before his Aston Villa reign.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:18 pm 0

Munky wrote:All the rumours point to Randy Lerner taking over as well, which is a bit of a mixed blessing in my opinion.

To everyone except Sun headline-writers.

rockwaldo · Post by **rockwaldo** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:05 pm 0

aureole wrote:
rockwaldo wrote:
Dio wrote:So, how on earth does Deadly Doug do it? First he bags O'Leary, now O'Neill...

Is it always "Don't worry lads, I'm leaving in a couple of months. Probably."?
O'Leary is piss easy to hire - he's a completely dismal manager.
I think his stock was quite high before his Aston Villa reign.

he made a proper mess of Leeds that's for sure. He was lucky to have some great players which nearly covered it up.

Munky · Post by **Munky** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:14 pm 0

rockwaldo wrote:
aureole wrote:
rockwaldo wrote:
Dio wrote:So, how on earth does Deadly Doug do it? First he bags O'Leary, now O'Neill...

Is it always "Don't worry lads, I'm leaving in a couple of months. Probably."?
O'Leary is piss easy to hire - he's a completely dismal manager.
I think his stock was quite high before his Aston Villa reign.
he made a proper mess of Leeds that's for sure. He was lucky to have some great players which nearly covered it up.

He hadn't learnt that he could blame his mistakes on the players back then.

"Dey're just kids."

Yeah, just kids who saved your arse on many an occasion because most of the senior players you bought were shite. Cunt.

Anyway, the press conference has officially been announced for 18:30 tonight. The new managers in place. I'm just waiting for the takeover talks to suspiciously collapse as soon as the transfer window closes.

Acronym · Post by **Acronym** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:33 pm 0

It's interesting to see which NFL owners are buying into the Premier; Tampa Bay Manchester United, the on-off New England Liverpool FC, and now Cleveland Villa...