Unity on XBox?

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Post by teamonkey »

Sargie wrote:I am sure Sony and Microsoft want to have a box under your TV to control the movies, music and games you will be watching, listening and playing in 5-8 years time.
Absolutely. And they make no apologies for it.

A Microsoft employee told me a couple of months ago that in the list of "needs" that a household has, consoles, video and DVD players, and satellite TV all rate higher than PCs. Microsoft's motivations are to have their products running on every computer (honestly, and again, they make no apologies for it).

Sony wants a Sony product in every home, and as many as possible. The distributed cell approach is cunning. You need a new TV, but if you buy a Sony TV it has an extra processing component for the grid. You need a hi-fi - you should get a Sony, not only because it has the optical connections, but because it has superior sound processing hardware for the grid. I like the idea of plugging household items together to form an Uber-console. As long as I don't have to pay for it.

Nintendo just want to make games the same way that they've always done. This is laudable, but it just isn't possible in this climate. Times are changing. I saw so many "console round-ups" before Christmas that said "...but the GameCube doesn't include a DVD player." That was a silly move for Nintendo, because if you add in DVD functionality, people think they're getting two products in one, and one less ugly box for under the TV. They're still good for handhelds, but they're ignoring the fact that mobiles, handheld PCs and games consoles are rapidly merging (I'm not talking the N-Gage here, I'm talking along the lines of the Sony-Ericsson P800 and the Microsoft SPV-type devices - hmmm, Sony and Microsoft again).

The fact that Nintendo ignoring the availability of broadband is very shortsighted. But then none of the consoles have got that right yet. Sony just likes the multiplayer idea, while Microsoft's idea is (as always) very forward-thinking, but they're still thinking in PC terms.

I'm no industry expert, but I predict that the next generation of consoles are going to be very interesting indeed. Nintendo will release one more successful console, and probably another hand-held device, before heading the way of Sega. That is, unless they change their modes of thinking somewhat sharpish. I'm not saying this is a good thing by any means. I think Sony's vision shows promise, but they really need to stick a hard drive in the next console they make, because downloading games is going to be a big thing. Microsoft are in absolutely no way going to drop consoles, as it's key to their vision of the household of the future. Both companies seem to be thinking along the same lines.

Anyway, that's enough from me.

P.S. I give the PC we know it about ten years, probably closer to five. It won't be a set top box playing DVDs, games and music. It'll be the household distributed network 8O
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Post by arron »

Give me a GP32 ;)

If I can write code and for it, then I will never be out of games to play. I am not hindered by the manufacturer who decides what I do with my console or how it fits into their plans of how it will be used in my house. And something only becomes obsolete if I am :)
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Jedburgh wrote:
Muttley wrote:I for one would like to know what /nick this Xenon uses in IRC, because I sure haven't seen him there... ever! ;)
Took me a smidge of lateral thinking and .2 of a second to spot... MegaBlast.
Well, you're obviously far smarter than me then Jed.... :roll:

I thought that for a while, but from my IRC logs, MegaBlast posted the following in the past:
MegaBlast on IRC wrote:<MegaBlast> so have you all met with jeff minter in person?
<MegaBlast> think I saw some pictures of his house once, the inside.... was quite frightening
<MegaBlast> does he ever respond to emails or messages on the forum?
<MegaBlast> have written to him in email and on the forum, never get any response
<MegaBlast> do you know if he's developing anything for the GBA?
Which kinda contradicts what the person was saying on TeamXbox:
Xenon on TeamXbox wrote:Fish food, yes, I have known him for quite a while. Don't worry, I've been hounding him for months already, ever since I first found out about Unity being on Gamecube.
and...
Xenon on TeamXbox wrote:I just need to shove him along a bit.
Which kind of implies that he knows Jeff quite well.

So I thought it must be someone else...

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Post by Arnel »

Curiouser and curiouser. I work for the Bitmap Brothers, and none of us here have a clue who's posting as Xenon on that forum...

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Post by Flojomojo »

I need to get back to work, so I shall attempt brevity.

1. I'm not convinced that poster really works for the Bitmap Brothers. Dropping Jeff's name hardly proves a close relationship. I could do the same thing.

2. I am convinced that any hype over PS3 at this point is just smoke. Mainstream broadband is not a reality, not now nor when PS3 will launch. Cell technology is somewhat unique, but I recall being excited about the "Emotion Engine" at one point as well.

3. I like the XBOX. I like billionaire-subsidized hardware and software. Unity would be great on it, with the ability to play custom soundtracks. Saying that it's a sellout or not a pure game machine is going a bit far down the blind fanboy path for me. There's only one good reason why Unity "should" be on Cube or "should not" be on Box -- that's whether or not Yak wants to do it. It's his choice whether or not to make it a commodity.

4. There's a very good chance that Unity will not be for everyone, just like other Yakly games. That's the way it goes. I don't like sports video games. It's not a big deal. The world is large.

5. Set-top box. If someone can make it work at a reasonable price point without being too complex, good for them. Video games won't go away, any more than they vanished during the "Silliwood" period -- there was just a stupid genre for a while. I have lots of computers and consoles, but hesitated about getting a Tivo for the longest time because of the complexity of it. I don't think the mainstream is nearly as gadget-fiddly as me. But have you seen some of those cable TV or satellite TV boxes some people put up with? Maybe it all comes down to marketing.

Oh well, so much for keeping it brief. :roll:
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It's a fanboy trying to look important. Is all.
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Jedburgh wrote:It's a fanboy trying to look important. Is all.
You can say that again. :wink:
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beardfreak wrote: When punters see the likes of Soul Calibur 2 running on the machine (which is absolutely stunning) I'm sure units will start to move. Especially when Halo drops in price (which is still one of the best console games ever).
Ok, help me out here...I've been enjoying The Streets' "Original Pirate Material" a lot lately. What's the difference between a punter and a geezer?
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Post by Llantwit boy »

A punter is the person who is a potenial customer. A geezer is like a dude or cool bloke. Get it mate! :wink:
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Post by jshawnd »

Ok, I'm clear on punter. Still a little confused on geezer. On the album, Skinner speaks of them rather disparagingly.

I'm somewhat reminded of when I explained the lyrics of an Eminem album for a friend from China. After a while, she just said "well I like it for the beats anyway."
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Post by Darkflame »

It should not appear on the Xbox, as it is downright dangerious to help the richest company in the world take over another marketplace.
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And as for the first comments, the GC is the only console not to be pirated (yet). Period.
The Freeloader disk took long enough to do, and that was a company working on cracking it.

Also, having it on a single console means you dont have to comprismise on any of the coding.
(this goes for all consoles, exclusive games normaly look cooler)
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ps, sorry to bump this thread but seeing as there hasnt been a diffinite answere on this topic....
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Post by stark »

having it on the GC is a good idea as ninty have a goodly hold in japan where i suspect the game will find greatest favour( though obviously i hope it does well here too) and keep jeff in 'bombay bad boys' and flossie in biccies

i seriously doubt the ps2 could handle it.

cross platform games have tended to appeal to the lowest common denominator (hardware wise) but GC & XBOX are about on a par but whether Xbox gets it is down to jeff/lionhead etc.

personally i dont care if bill gates is rich. so is the boss of sony/nintendo. dont demonise him just because he is a devil and dont discount xbox just because his company made it.
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Post by koworld »

My money is still on the Phantom.

Also I once bought Minter a Guiness.

umm, that is all. 8O
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Post by Mayhem »

Btw Nintendo HAVE changed their own region coding... people are starting to report not being able to play PAL games on NTSC GCs using Freeloader... dunno how long before it starts to happen the other way around...
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