matt wrote:
I hope he is less stressed out of here, as I've seen Giles make numerous, unprovoked pops about his financial state.
Did he? I didn't notice that.
Anyway, good luck to Stuart, hope he gets it sorted out, and hopefully we'll see him back at some point, given that the flap-and-storm off seems to be largely based on a misunderstanding (and a bit of unfair ribbing, sure, but like Yak said, if ya give it out...)
Let's face it, he has been a cunt to one and all. But as far as I could see, it was usually more of a bark than a bite, offensive but not heartfelt. As such, I shrugged off most negative comments I recived, apologising for a few mistakes and standing up for my oppinions when I wasn't in the mood for antagonism.
At the end of the day, I like to read Yak and Gravy's posts more often than The Rev's. But I hink most of the real arguments have been utterly mad. There doesn't seem to be any goal on either side other than to make the other person/s submit. Silly. Not saying I'm any better, but then again, I'm not an ex-gaming journo or a programmer and I've got to be about 10 years younger than the youngest of you the three.
I'm such a fucking fool, still talking about this. Fact is, Rev's gone, and it's possibly forever. There are still good people here and I wouldn't blame Yak, Gravy, or Giles for not caring if he's gone. Hell, I wouldn't even blame them for being sort of glad. But those of us who thought he was nice to have around, for occasionally makign good points, or just to antagonise us on our latest purchases (I still think a review of D2K should be about the entire contents of the cart, and even if it wasn't I liked 2K mode enough to give it a decent review), some of us were entertained. Not when the claws came out, you understand. Just when he was being a bastard for the crowd, telling you you're wrong but not actually ripping into you.
And that's why some of us will miss the fucker. That's all frankly. There's not much more to say. Fingers will be pointed, and the dicussion will go one, but it's all been done. Soon it'll all be history, but it's a pity Rev and the many people on the forums never saw eye to eye. There's nothing wrong with being upset at somebody leaving and there's nothing wrong with speaking your mind.
Now, it's not gointg to happen but I think the subject should be dulled down a little. Let's get back to the usual ebb and flow of topics, hmm?
Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote: I didn't quite "call him a cunt", as he misleadingly suggests - what I said was
"I just don't get why you, from a somewhat more comfortable position, feel the need to be such a cunt about it."
In what world is that not calling someone a cunt?
This one The Rev said that Gravy acted like a cunt. Different from being a cunt.
I am not a stupid person. This does not stop me from acting stupidly from time to time ... like posting in this thread
The Rev is, first and foremost, a master of the English language. He uses this skill, primarily, as a debater *. Debaters do not have to be right or even believe that they are right. They simply have to be able to argue eloqunetly in favour of whatever is under discussion. The Rev is very good at it.
He also uses language as a weapon and he is very good at that, too. In personal interaction, it can be a weapon even more powerful than physical attack. Yes ... he is very good at that.
It's going to be quiet(er) round here without him ... and that's not a baaaad thing.
Elizian
*I was going to use the mass debater line but you cunts are all too busy playing with yourselves to understand shining wit like that
I'm sorry I disagree with you there. The Rev himself said that he said:
I just don't get why you ... feel the need to be such a cunt about it.
Which is a very different thing from
I just don't get why you ... feel the need to act such a cunt about it.
To be honest, that it comes down to such nit-picking over semantics shows just how dubious the Rev's claim that Gravy was being misleading is. You ask just about anyone in the street and they will tell you that saying "why do you feel the need to be such a cunt?" is the same as saying "why are you such a cunt?".
Elizian wrote:The Rev is, first and foremost, a master of the English language.
You saying Stu's a cunning linguist?
master debator
"And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure."
amanset wrote:
I'm sorry I disagree with you there. The Rev himself said that he said:
I just don't get why you ... feel the need to be such a cunt about it.
Which is a very different thing from
I just don't get why you ... feel the need to act such a cunt about it.
It's no different. People just think it is.
I'm not a stupid person. I do stupid things. At these times I can be said to be both being stupid, and acting stupidly.
Neither mean I'm a stupid person.
Or in the context of the debate - nice people can be cunts occasionally, and cunts can be nice occasionally.
I'd hope most people who know me wouldn't call me a dirty, hairy, noisy, bad-tempered, clueless, hypocritical bastard, but I've been all of those things from time to time (if I'm not at least 3 of them every day I'm probably ill, tbh ).
merman wrote:PRIVATE messages should stay just that - private.
Seconded.
"We don't have a great war in our generation, or a great depression, but we do, we have a great war of the spirit. We have a great revolution against the culture. The great depression is ourlives. We have a spiritual depression." - Tyler Durden
Sorry you can say what you like about his opinions etc but he was a vindictive, small minded, aggressive, hate filled bitter excuse for a man. Some of the vitriol he used to shower upon this forum was vile in the extreme.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions etc and all points of view are welcomed but there are ways of expressing yourself that are unaccetpable and The Rev's attitude was often just plain nasty.
The Rev said that Gravy acted like a cunt. Different from being a cunt.
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