FOOTBALL: Season 2006/07 Discussion Thread

Col · Post by **Col** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:39 am 0

I think Roy Keane as Sunderland manager is an even worse desicion than having Quinn as manager. They're replacing a rookie with no managerial or coaching experience with...

merman · Post by **merman** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:41 am 0

TFO wrote:Unfortunately because Thatcher was given a yellow at the time, under FA rules, they cannot take any more action against him.

FA apparently looking at the regulations in the light of what happened...

Loada · Post by **Loada** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:48 am 0

The challenge on Ryan Giggs last week was appalling too (by Browne?) and he got off with a yellow card as well.

The irony is that the refs are being tougher than ever on the "old school" basics like shoulder-to-shoulder, backing-in, climbing with arms up, taking-the-ball-and-man tackles etc but they can't seem to get it right when the genuinely malicious, career-threatening professional fouls are committed.

I definitely think the FA should take action after the game based on video evidence - if that means a change to the so-called rules, then so be it. May as well include diving and "gamesmanship" (cheating) in the after-match-punishment remit whilst they're at it.

Right, Boro' for the Premiership? ... anyone??? ... hello????

mac monkey · Post by **mac monkey** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:50 am 0

TFO wrote:Unfortunately because Thatcher was given a yellow at the time, under FA rules, they cannot take any more action against him.

Well that's just daft if thats the case.They should look past this in terms of the laws of football, it was assault, just because it was done on a football pitch should not let him get away with it.
If you hit someone like that in the street, you would be arrested. The pace he was going he could of broke his neck!!
The FA should ban him from the game.NOW

Although when watching it on MOTD, i did think of the late great Cloughie...

It's a cup tie, 10 minutes to go, Forest are down 1 - 0 and they've used all their subs. Worse, for once in his life Stuart "Psycho" Pearce comes off second best in a tackle.

The team physiologist shouts out to Cloughie ... "He cant go back on, he's taken a knock to the head, he doesn't know who he is."

To which Cloughie replies ...."Tell him he's fucking Pele and put him up front!"

Still makes me chuckle.

George_Bray · Post by **George_Bray** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:56 am 0

ROTFLMAO - That's hilarious...

M · Post by M » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:08 pm 0

romanista wrote:
TFO wrote:
romanista wrote:I hate football right now... ajax -copenhagen 0-2 (2-3 on agg)
Does that mean Ajax are out of the Champions League?

yup, uefa cup, it was just incredible, ajax jad played a good game un sunday, played a good first half, unlucky not to be 1 or 2 nil up (the bar etc..), and then the second half they seemed not to be able to do anything right, and the 0-2 was an avoidable own-goal

Champions League? Lot of pish! Who'd want to play in that. Obviously not Hearts, either

Maybe see you in UEFA!

fog · Post by **fog** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:44 pm 0

merman wrote:
TFO wrote:Unfortunately because Thatcher was given a yellow at the time, under FA rules, they cannot take any more action against him.
FA apparently looking at the regulations in the light of what happened...

As are the police according to Sky Sports....

Thatcher's actions infuriated Pompey boss Harry Redknapp who called for The FA to take action against the former Tottenham and Wimbledon man.

As referee Dermot Gallagher did brandish a yellow card it had seemed as though Thatcher may escape further action, but the powerbrokers at Soho Square are now treating the case as an exceptional incident.

"We are looking at whether this may possibly be an exceptional case and what options may exist under our disciplinary regulations," confirmed an FA spokesman.

The City defender has previously been punished for elbowing Sunderland's Nicky Summerbee in 2000, for which he received a two game ban, and may now find himself in hot water again following his latest indiscretion.

Greater Manchester Police are also preparing to investigate the incident after receiving a number of complaints following the Premiership game.

Ban the talentless thug. What odds he's Keanes first Sunderland signing.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:03 pm 0

Yeah, I think Keane at Sunderland would be a complete disaster. Too angry, and he'd have enough problems coping with the "Why can't you play as well as I could?" problem at a Premiership club, let alone at a lower division.

World-class players never make great managers, discuss. (It's a question I plan to ask Mr. Shearer, who is apparently this year's guest at the West Moor Club football night in a month's time).

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:08 pm 0

Dio wrote:World-class players never make great managers, discuss.

Martin O'Neill? (ok, slightly debatable on the world class I know...)

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:10 pm 0

Him and Bobby Robson are the closest to exceptions I'm aware of, although both were only minor international players.

Ely · Post by **Ely** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:42 pm 0

Cruyff, did okay as a Manager didn't he?

fog · Post by **fog** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:55 pm 0

World-class players never make great managers, discuss.

Martin O'Neill? (ok, slightly debatable on the world class I know...)

Neither a World-class player or manager....yet.

Anyone got a You Tube/Google Vid link of the Ben Thatcher assault?

mac monkey · Post by **mac monkey** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:13 pm 0

Dio wrote:I think Keane at Sunderland would be a complete disaster.

I disagree, I think he's just what Sunderland need.For too long now Sunderland have been a bit of a laughing stock and the board seemed they were just out for themselves, injecting a barely adequate amount of money just to get something back on there shares.
Now most of those have moved on and Niall Quinn has taken over with the introduction of Keane would be a master stroke, yes he lacks experience but you have to start somewhere.
If you have ever read Keane's book you will note that he wants the best of everything, he's a professional with high standards.
Sunderland AFC has great facilities, a good academy/training ground, and passionate loyal support.
He has been played for two of the great's of management in Clough & Ferguson, not bad I think you would agree?

So i hope it works out for them, i really do.

merman · Post by **merman** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:41 pm 0

fog wrote:
World-class players never make great managers, discuss.

Martin O'Neill? (ok, slightly debatable on the world class I know...)

Neither a World-class player or manager....yet.

Anyone got a You Tube/Google Vid link of the Ben Thatcher assault?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTRaS7ffyWg

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:12 pm 0

mac monkey wrote:If you have ever read Keane's book you will note that he wants the best of everything, he's a professional with high standards.

And what happens when he doesn't get them? Even if they do have a great ground, training facilities and supporters (which, while they might, are likely to be well deficient of Man U standards in at least the first two) they certainly don't have great players.

I fear the inevitable progression here will be rising cycles of frustration and anger leading to alienation and finally meltdown.

I hope I'm wrong for their sake mind (I'm one of the Newcastle supporters who'd rather have Sunderland in the Premiership - I like the atmos of the derby games and there's always the old joke about six easy points).