FOOTBALL: Season 2006/07 Discussion Thread

fog · Post by **fog** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:37 pm 0

Acronym wrote:Player/managers - Dalglish at Liverpool has a case, but the best counterexample I can think of is Franz Beckenbauer.

Not convinced by Dalglish either. Aside from the fact he destroyed a decent Newcastle team, the success at Liverpool could be attributed to the fantastic team he inherited. Possibly coincidence but he left when serious rebuilding was needed.

mac monkey · Post by **mac monkey** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:54 pm 0

Boro riding high...

Gorecki · Post by **Gorecki** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:36 pm 0

Guru-Meditation wrote:
George_Bray wrote:*snip*
After seeing the video well it ain't as bad as I thought it could be. The way the radio made it out to be it sounded like Thatcher had taken a flying leap shoulder first into Mendes eye socket.

Karma will reward us

No flying leap, but what's in that video is far worse than that. Putting aside the obvious point that there's absolutely no intention to play the ball, he's running in at full tilt and just before he collides with the player he throws his arm out, angles his elbow right at his victim and pops his hip out to gain maximum force upon impact.

That is one incredibly vicious, pre-meditated attack that is capable of doing a severe amount of injury. I've never quite understood how football is considered outside the law when it comes to assault, it's not as if there's a lack of evidence.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:49 pm 0

Well ... Thatcher might be in for a nasty surprise. Cops can't do anything about events on the field .. but if you look carefully you can see that Mendes was outside the field when he got hit, therefore making it the jurisdiction of the police

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:11 pm 0

Forest are on Football Focus on Saturday. On a Forest forum, 'Anatoli' posted the following, in response to speculation as to what would be said in the feature:

"Usual stuff, twice European Cup winners, Four time League cup winners dumped out of cup by Accrington. You're not famous anymore, Premiership ground, Div One Club, Colin Calderwood's ambitions, ten managers in ten years, Ron Atkinson sits on the wrong bench, 'I thought we should stay up as we had Bergkamp on the bench.'
Then Carlton Palmer arrives. Pictures of Clough then David Platt and three Italians. Clip of fat Joe and Meggo. Comments about the fans being fickle. Quick clip of Frank and Charlie lighting a cigar last season. Then Colin interviewed 'I want to concentrate on the League. Forest are a big club and the fans expect more.' Doughty, 'We will support Colin all the way'. Then Mark Bright finishing with some comment about the ghost of Cloughie."

I'll bet he's spot on with than an' all... let's see shall we?

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:28 pm 0

mac monkey wrote:*snip*

Well, if it makes you feel any better when Liverpool won the cup they were grouped with a tough French team, a Greek team (Greece is near Turkey, right?

) and a team that in normal circumstances are tough to beat.

Of course Deportivio proceded to flop and Liverpool still only barely got through, then went on the way to win.

Side note to that, how bizarre are La Coruna? Selection of results :

2002-2003

Coruna 0 - 4 AC Milan
Munich 0 - 3 Coruna

2003-2004
Matchday 3 : Coruna 1 - 0 Monaco
Matchday 4 : Monaco 8 - 3 Coruna

AC Milan 4 - 1 Coruna
Coruna 4 - 0 AC Milan

2004-2005
Coruna 0 - 5 Monaco

Must be fun supporting that team. No freaking idea what the hell they're going to do.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:29 pm 0

Guru-Meditation wrote:Cops can't do anything about events on the field ..

Of course they can. The laws of the country are identical whether inside or outside the white lines - assault is still assault. Ask Duncan Ferguson if you need confirmation of this.

On the other side of the news, I've never seen as one-sided a game as I did at St James' tonight. I reckon we had 20 shots on target, probably another 10 plus off, and nearly 20 corners. Oh boy did we need a proper striker on the pitch. Owen would have scored about six tonight.

Edit: Sky says 7 on target, plus 12 blocked, 16 off target, 12 corners, 70% posession. Ventspils had none on target, none off target, 2 blocked. That's about right.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:54 pm 0

Yeah, despite it being really frustrating, it was still one of the more enjoyable 0-0 games I've seen.

Of course, if we hadn't already been 1-0 up from the first leg, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it anywhere near as much...

Mat T · Post by **Mat T** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:29 am 0

Bolton bought the great sulk Anelka for 8 million?!

Oh man...

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:31 am 0

Mat T wrote:Bolton bought the great sulk Anelka for 8 million?!

Some things in life are inevitable - death, taxes, and another big club giving Anelka his "last chance".

romanista · Post by **romanista** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:59 am 0

Guru-Meditation wrote: Must be fun supporting that team. No freaking idea what the hell they're going to do.

In tghe early nineties i supported them a bit, liking their wigan effect... , they had a great midfield with maura silva, and bebeto* in front...

still i think those scores would have gotten much more attention if La CoruÃ±a had been larger than Cardiff....

* that was before the horrible baby-waggling thing against holland in '94

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:15 pm 0

Another trip to the Baltic for Newcastle, I think? Decent draw for us.

fog · Post by **fog** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:23 pm 0

Zen-Chan wrote:
Mat T wrote:Bolton bought the great sulk Anelka for 8 million?!
Some things in life are inevitable - death, taxes, and another big club giving Anelka his "last chance".

And inevitably he will be superb for the first season before looking for another move.

I don't see how he will fit into the Bolton style of play at all though.

merman · Post by **merman** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:28 pm 0

fog wrote:
Zen-Chan wrote:
Mat T wrote:Bolton bought the great sulk Anelka for 8 million?!
Some things in life are inevitable - death, taxes, and another big club giving Anelka his "last chance".
And inevitably he will be superb for the first season before looking for another move.

I don't see how he will fit into the Bolton style of play at all though.

Long ball to Anelka, he tries to turn the defender, wins a free kick or penalty. Davies deadball strike or header. Goal.

cyric100 · Post by **cyric100** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:16 pm 0

So Thatcher is suspended by city and charged by the FA. Probably the right thing to do, but it will be interesting to hear what FIFA thinks about it.