Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

[disciple]

I think you've got your wires crossed a bit there, noone actually ever disagreed on the gamecube+ part.

Well if you want to be selective.

Noone said it wasn't a souped up Gamecube, all people picked you up on was that you were saying it's just a Gamecube+ and using that alone to say the Wii is overpriced, i.e. people thought you were being a touch selective in order to make a point.

Also Teamonkey's "Miyamoto: "It's a GameCube+" which picks out a common phrase and completely leaves out two lots of context! Though adding a says he was just fucking around anyway!

I'm not getting into all that again because it's boring

Agreed! But in fairness Teamonkey brought it up. Then Deckard, Marf, Ragematrix, Darkflame, Kemper, Anders, Teamonkey again, Tanatoes, you, me and Samus felt the need to reply. So it can't be that dull can it!

But yeah, basically, the thing should be cheaper to produce than the GC, because it's just a GC clocked slightly higher, with a couple of extras bolted on, 4 years later. So yes, if you could overclock your gamecube, basically, you HAVE got a Wii. No, it really doesn't justify a higher price than the GC did at launch. Etc.etc.etc.

Well yeah but you missed out the "with a couple of extras bolted on" bit before when talking about the price point, that's all people were pointing out.

It's a bit like comparing a 360 to a PS3 while conveniently ignoring Blueray costs in order to make the PS3 look like Sony have intentionally overpriced.

Obviously the Wii controller is a major part into which R&D costs have undoubtedly been ploughed, then there's the drive, the nunchuck, the incredibly compact size, the software, the Wii online infrastructure, the worldwide launch and the advertising campaign which according to Nintendo we're going to be flooded with at release time. All these have an impact on price, you can't just factor in the cost of a subset of the main unit alone when looking at price point. That's all folks were saying, not that it's not a Gamecube+ from a processing power and API perspective.

[Samus]

Well, all I'm saying is that almost everything Matt writes makes me think of a basic guy from the street with no creative or professional vision at all.

Well that's his audience isn't it?

So?

[Marius]

Wii is roughly half the size of GameCube and it still packs twice the power. It has roughly double the processing prowess, approximately double the RAM, an additional 512MBs of useable flash memory, built in 802.11b/g wireless capabilities and a full docking station for GameCube controllers. The console is backward compatible, in fact, with every GCN title ever made. And I haven't even mentioned its Wii Channels system or, most importantly, the Wii controller, which could represent one of the biggest hardware innovations the industry has seen in years.

Isn't this, and Wii sports, worth the asking price? Considering just how fun Wii sports looks, as well as all the Wii channels and the Mii-stuff, I have no problems about the pricetag.

Comparing it to the 360, with almost no backwards compatibility(and none whatsoever without a HD), no internal memory for saving games, a very disappointing collection of retro-releases and a useless DVD player, I'd say it's great value for money.

And what about the PS3, forcefeeding it's useless blue-ray technology to the consumers, making the price go through the roof...I won't even go there.

[teamonkey]

Nope. But when I said it, I was wrong, apparently

Yeah, I was thinking of you and K_B when I posted it.


@disciple: The context is all in this thread.

[Anders]

Comparing it to the 360, with almost no backwards compatibility(and none whatsoever without a HD)...

Of course you wont have any backwards compatibility without a HD, since the first Xbox shipped with one and games were designed with one in mind...

Then Deckard, Marf, Ragematrix, Darkflame, Kemper, Anders, Teamonkey again, Tanatoes, you, me and Samus felt the need to reply. So it can't be that dull can it!

Maybe it says something about the thread?

[Samus]

Isn't this, and Wii sports, worth the asking price? Considering just how fun Wii sports looks, as well as all the Wii channels and the Mii-stuff, I have no problems about the pricetag.

For some it is, for some it isn't. That's why I'm asking people personally.

I've played computer & videogames practically my whole life. I'm used to paying for my hobbies (shock!). I pay only if I think I get enough value for my money. Now, for me, Wii has more must buy games the first day than any other launch before. And, it has the potential of becoming the most interesting console ever. From this point of view, 250$ is a steal. Some people don't feel this way. It's all subjective.

[Marius]

Comparing it to the 360, with almost no backwards compatibility(and none whatsoever without a HD)...

Of course you wont have any backwards compatibility without a HD, since the first Xbox shipped with one and games were designed with one in mind...

Then Deckard, Marf, Ragematrix, Darkflame, Kemper, Anders, Teamonkey again, Tanatoes, you, me and Samus felt the need to reply. So it can't be that dull can it!

Maybe it says something about the thread?

And since I don't have a HD, and since I have no plans buying one, it's overall value drops drastically, especially since it so far has had only two games that interested me(Oblivion and Dead Rising). The Wii has at least four of five games that is on my "must-have" list so far...hopefully they will live up to the hype as well.

I would gladly pay the same amount for the Wii as I did for a 360, and I personally would get much more value for my money.

[TFO]

Anyway, we'll see .. time will tell personally before Mac I'd love lot more
to have the possibility to do something for Nintendo, I'd like lot to put
hands on a DS (and do something for it) and/or a Wii using the new controllers.

Aha ha ha ha ha hahaaaaaaa!

[marf]

Anyway, we'll see .. time will tell personally before Mac I'd love lot more
to have the possibility to do something for Nintendo, I'd like lot to put
hands on a DS (and do something for it) and/or a Wii using the new controllers.

Aha ha ha ha ha hahaaaaaaa!

Someone somewhere make this happen!!! Please!

[George_Bray]

Create your own Mii

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/10/mii.swf

~g

[Stevo]

Create your own Mii

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/10/mii.swf

~g

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?t=58169

[George_Bray]

Well, I can sleep safe in the knowledge that I *did* search for the link first and no entries came up!

Thx anyhoo.

~g

[namor7]

Matt Casamassina does good work, and he manages to straddle the line between fanboyism and objectivity quite well.

His blog entry was right on the money, no pun intended.

[Darkflame]

Wii Sports ~ $30
Wiimote + Nunchuck ~ $60
So by Nintendos prices thats $250 -$30 - $60 = $160
$160 for an overclocked gamecube with a bit more ram, wireless, 512MB flash memory, movie/photo viewing off SD and a free online service. Its also vastely smaller, lighter, and more power efficiant.

Dosnt mater what they could charge for it, but for what it does it sounds great value and the "+" part of gamecube+ seems pretty darn big.
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Incidently, I am getting the feeling Nintendo might sale Cd/DVD player as a channel later. The hardware is all there, its just a mater of the lisence fee for the DVD format right?
So they could sale it ver a download later, much like the browser will be for people that dont get it at launch.

I see no excuse for the lack of CD playback mind.

Heck ,they could have had some fun Mii's danceing for the visulisation no?

[ESY]

Can I jump into this thread (and on the bandwagon) just to show off my new avatar? Eh?

I always thought you were call BiggestJizm. I guess the new avatar woke me up.