Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

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CompUSA Wii Markups (1st column is price to customer, 2nd is price to CompUSA from Nintendo). Nintendo's not giving much margin to the retailers on the console then...

WII CONSOLE - 249.99 / 237.50
WII REMOTE CONTROLL - 39.99 / 32.00
WII POINTS CARD - 24.99 / 17.00
WII CLASSIC CONTROLLER - 19.99 / 14.50
WII NUNCHUK CONTROLLER - 19.99 / 14.50
WII GPAK ORGANIZER&TRAVEL - 29.99 / 18.95
WII RAYMAN RAVING RABIDS - 49.99 / 41.2
WII THE LEGEND OF ZELDA:TW - 49.99 / 40.00
WII RED STEEL REVOLUTION - 49.99 / 41.22

http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/07/wii- ... d-endcaps/

Also a load of pictures of accessories. These look like a good idea - colour coded controllers for multiplayer action:
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Post by Col »

Roobarb wrote: Image
Good idea, look a bit cheapy to me though :(
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Col wrote:
Roobarb wrote: Good idea, look a bit cheapy to me though :(
I'll wait to see them wrapped around the Wiimote. Perhaps the white under those semitransparent colours is nice. :)
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maybe, but I personaly hope someone starts a chromeing service :)
Anders wrote:
Darkflame wrote:Its fine to upgrade a model as long as you dont change the game format. People expect a game format to last a certain amount of time.

If the DSLite was more powerfull, and took different games, people would be very angry that there old DS became useless. (as games would die out for it too quickly).
That would make it a new platform, however, despite backwards compatibility. Look at the GBA vs DS. The DS plays GBA games, but it's native format is new, which makes it a new platform and not a successor to the GBA.
Well, the DS format *is* replaceing the GBA format, so it is the successor. GBA games are fadeing out.

However, the GBA format had a very good lifespan with many many great games. So theres no real complaints.
Technology moves on.

However, you cant make a new format, a new platform, for every upgrade in technology.
Each platform has to last a certain amount of time, else you will really frustrate your userbase. You dont buy a system for 1 or 2 games, you buy it for your personal pick from, say, the next 5 years of games.

So in short, upgraded Wii in 2 years = worst possible thing for Nintendo to do.


And yes, games could be made to have different assets for different specs on the same disc but you start to lose the whole point of a console, and some big advantages to console developement.
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Darkflame wrote:Well, the DS format *is* replaceing the GBA format, so it is the successor. GBA games are fadeing out.
I vaguely recall Iwata stressing that the DS was *not* replacing the GBA, but maybe I imagined it.
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Anders wrote:
Darkflame wrote:Well, the DS format *is* replaceing the GBA format, so it is the successor. GBA games are fadeing out.
I vaguely recall Iwata stressing that the DS was *not* replacing the GBA, but maybe I imagined it.
Well, that was to cover the case if the DS bombed. ;)
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yup, spot on.

Probably the same reason the DS isnt called Gameboy either.
So as not to risk the brand on an expirement.
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Darkflame wrote:

expirement
I love it.

I suppose you probably meant to write "experiment" but "expirement" is beautiful, particularly in context.
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freudian slip :wink:
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Roobarb wrote:CompUSA Wii Markups (1st column is price to customer, 2nd is price to CompUSA from Nintendo). Nintendo's not giving much margin to the retailers on the console then...
No hardware manufacturer ever has. Games shops make the vast majority of their money on second hand games and third party hardware (much larger margin than official, which is why they often push that instead).
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Darkflame wrote:maybe, but I personaly hope someone starts a chromeing service :)
Anders wrote:
Darkflame wrote:Its fine to upgrade a model as long as you dont change the game format. People expect a game format to last a certain amount of time.

If the DSLite was more powerfull, and took different games, people would be very angry that there old DS became useless. (as games would die out for it too quickly).
That would make it a new platform, however, despite backwards compatibility. Look at the GBA vs DS. The DS plays GBA games, but it's native format is new, which makes it a new platform and not a successor to the GBA.
Well, the DS format *is* replaceing the GBA format, so it is the successor. GBA games are fadeing out.

However, the GBA format had a very good lifespan with many many great games. So theres no real complaints.
Technology moves on.

However, you cant make a new format, a new platform, for every upgrade in technology.
Each platform has to last a certain amount of time, else you will really frustrate your userbase. You dont buy a system for 1 or 2 games, you buy it for your personal pick from, say, the next 5 years of games.

So in short, upgraded Wii in 2 years = worst possible thing for Nintendo to do.


And yes, games could be made to have different assets for different specs on the same disc but you start to lose the whole point of a console, and some big advantages to console developement.
Where is all this upgrade in two years stuff from ? Have I missed something in the last two days/8 hundred pages of price whingeing ? Or is this from the Sony "Cant find a UMD when you need one" fanboys ? (flame,flame)
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Have we had any word about what wireless encryption the Wii supports? I'm a little worried to say the least that Nintendo will pull a DS on us and only support WEP which is almost as bad as no encryption at all.
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Deckard wrote:
Darkflame wrote:maybe, but I personaly hope someone starts a chromeing service :)
Anders wrote:
Darkflame wrote:Its fine to upgrade a model as long as you dont change the game format. People expect a game format to last a certain amount of time.

If the DSLite was more powerfull, and took different games, people would be very angry that there old DS became useless. (as games would die out for it too quickly).
That would make it a new platform, however, despite backwards compatibility. Look at the GBA vs DS. The DS plays GBA games, but it's native format is new, which makes it a new platform and not a successor to the GBA.
Well, the DS format *is* replaceing the GBA format, so it is the successor. GBA games are fadeing out.

However, the GBA format had a very good lifespan with many many great games. So theres no real complaints.
Technology moves on.

However, you cant make a new format, a new platform, for every upgrade in technology.
Each platform has to last a certain amount of time, else you will really frustrate your userbase. You dont buy a system for 1 or 2 games, you buy it for your personal pick from, say, the next 5 years of games.

So in short, upgraded Wii in 2 years = worst possible thing for Nintendo to do.


And yes, games could be made to have different assets for different specs on the same disc but you start to lose the whole point of a console, and some big advantages to console developement.
Where is all this upgrade in two years stuff from ? Have I missed something in the last two days/8 hundred pages of price whingeing ? Or is this from the Sony "Cant find a UMD when you need one" fanboys ? (flame,flame)
There was just speculation that Nintendo would bring out a new console in a much shorter timespan as soon as the Xbox360/PS3 started *really* getting their horsepower used.

Personaly, I think that would be a crazy move for a company.
Allthough its true we havnt even begun too see really interesting stuff done with the PS3/360 yet.
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If only this were anything other than hopeful speculation :)

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/r ... 206059.php
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Post by Daniel »

Darkflame wrote:yup, spot on.

Probably the same reason the DS isnt called Gameboy either.
So as not to risk the brand on an expirement.
Maybe there are more reasons for dropping the name Gameboy...
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