Politics Thread!

Inane baanter or words of wisdom - you decide...
Post Reply
User avatar
(o)(o)
Baaaaaaa!
Baaaaaaa!
Posts: 6885
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:21 am 0

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by (o)(o) »

pogo wrote:One thing I can’t see happening is a larger coalition on the right, like the progressive one the SNP seems to want. It would need to include the Lib Dems...
Image
User avatar
gravy
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 19572
Joined: Wed May 01, 2002 1:28 pm 0
Location: The Other Place

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by gravy »

pogo wrote:We’ll see. The only plausible way for Cameron to be PM again is if the Tories do far better than the polls suggest, enough that they can govern with the Lib Dems again. But I can’t see the polls being that badly wrong.
Oh yeah, I'm painting the rosiest possible picture for Cameron and saying that would still be shaky ground for him politicall.

Wonder if it will be Boris next? I know the grass rooters are very antipathetic towards Cameron and other than having the benefit of not being Cameron I don't have a view about how the Tories view him.
User avatar
pogo
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 14180
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2002 8:28 pm 0
Yahoo Messenger: BrassSparrow
Location: County Durham

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by pogo »

Re ‘BLUKIP’, polls predict UKIP will get between 1 and 3 seats, while the DUP will get maybe 8. A Tory-UKIP-DUP coalition is impossible, unless the polls are very very wrong: the Tories would need 310 or more seats for it to work. And before it happens they would be in coalition with the Lib Dems. They will only need around 300 seats for that, and it would suit both parties more than partnering with others.
User avatar
pogo
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 14180
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2002 8:28 pm 0
Yahoo Messenger: BrassSparrow
Location: County Durham

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by pogo »

User avatar
gravy
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 19572
Joined: Wed May 01, 2002 1:28 pm 0
Location: The Other Place

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by gravy »

Haha, he's alright when he don't give a fuck.

Today's Ashcroft poll has cons on 34% and lab on 32%
User avatar
merman
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 10943
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:44 pm 0
XBL Gamertag: merman1974
Yahoo Messenger: andrewrfisher
Location: Skegness, England
Contact:

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by merman »

gravy wrote:Haha, he's alright when he don't give a fuck.

Today's Ashcroft poll has cons on 34% and lab on 32%
The last twelve major newspaper polls have Labour or Conservatives between 32-34%.

Very little has changed. The impact of the fake Tory letters, the right wing editorials, the EdStone - it's not changed either party's fortunes.

So when you vote on Thursday, get ready to do it all over again by Christmas...
Twitter, Xbox, Wii U and Steam - merman1974
ZZAP is back - https://www.patreon.com/zzapmagazine
User avatar
pogo
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 14180
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2002 8:28 pm 0
Yahoo Messenger: BrassSparrow
Location: County Durham

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by pogo »

Nah, it will probably be a Labour-SNP government. Despite Miliband’s bold claims he will stick to his own platform, not change it to suit other parties, that doesn’t really hold him to anything as he has been very vague on the detail, with pledges such as eliminating the deficit as soon as possible being essentially meaningless. Plus the SNP’s platform is pretty close to Labour, or at least does not really contradict anything in Labour’s vague platform, so is not going to cause him many problems.

The SNP will likely be even keener on making it work. They are not about to vote down a Labour administration and risk a return of the Conservatives, or even worse for them a loss some of their 50+ MPs. So things that are Scottish priorities but which have no support in England will be dropped rather than treated as red lines that Labour has to support, or kicked into the long grass such as handed to a commission to study it.
User avatar
gravy
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 19572
Joined: Wed May 01, 2002 1:28 pm 0
Location: The Other Place

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by gravy »

Here we go, coalition welfare cuts leak

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... d-disabled
User avatar
Cloudane
Baaaaaaa!
Baaaaaaa!
Posts: 7937
Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:05 pm 0
Location: VRchat

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by Cloudane »

This bit of advice on tactical voting on the same place
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... y-election
Sways me to vote Labour (not Green, which I was considering) and everything else I've heard recently has easily convinced me that the Tories getting in for a second term would not make for happy times. Yay, a decision! Let's hope a few more ditherers come to one.
User avatar
gravy
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 19572
Joined: Wed May 01, 2002 1:28 pm 0
Location: The Other Place

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by gravy »

As a bit of light relief lets all have a look at something we can all agree on, the enormous bellendry of UKIP

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ro ... ry-5641537
User avatar
F-ZeroOne
Baaaaaaa!
Baaaaaaa!
Posts: 8208
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:27 pm 0

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by F-ZeroOne »

Jon Snow knows more than stereotypical American:

http://mashable.com/2015/04/30/uk-elect ... -jon-snow/
"Stars don't twinkle in space." - Char Aznable.
User avatar
Cloudane
Baaaaaaa!
Baaaaaaa!
Posts: 7937
Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:05 pm 0
Location: VRchat

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by Cloudane »

Another unfortunate one-off bad apple for the totally-not-racist UKIP then :lol:

If that lot one day ended up in power I bet the back bench would be rather... lively
User avatar
VNVObit
Baaaaaa!
Baaaaaa!
Posts: 4072
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:03 pm 0
XBL Gamertag: vnvobit
PSN: VNV_Obit
Location: London

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by VNVObit »

gravy wrote:As a bit of light relief lets all have a look at something we can all agree on, the enormous bellendry of UKIP

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ro ... ry-5641537
8O 8O enormous doesn't give you the scale of it
"England is funny, but sometimes she scares me"
Tony Wakeford

My avatar is the cover of Tower of Babel's first single

"Sky is not roof, Earth is not bottom, the world is not yours, you are the world's" from Brown by Grotus
offyoutoddle
Baaaaaa!
Baaaaaa!
Posts: 2644
Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:16 pm 0
Yahoo Messenger: awvc1@yahoo.co.uk
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by offyoutoddle »

Cloudane wrote:Another unfortunate one-off bad apple for the totally-not-racist UKIP then :lol:

If that lot one day ended up in power I bet the back bench would be rather... lively
enough apples for the whole bloody orchard I'd say
one joy scatters a thousand griefs
User avatar
Ollie
Baaaaaa!
Baaaaaa!
Posts: 4446
Joined: Mon May 03, 2004 7:04 pm 0
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Politics Thread!

Post by Ollie »

pogo wrote:
gravy wrote:Exciting!
That makes YouGov the exception then. It’s the only one predicting Labour will have more seats, the other five are predicting the Tories will have more, all by wider margins:

http://may2015.com/category/seat-calculator/
Those are forecasts, not polls. The forecasts allow for differences between what people say in the polls and how they actually vote, which usually favours the incumbent. YouGov's poll has Labour 4 seats ahead, but their latest forecast puts the Tories 22 seats ahead:

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/05/03/zone-uncertainty/
Why are you breaking my kayak?
Post Reply