Llamasoft does TxK for Sony Vita

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gravy wrote:That all said if someone wants to bring a case with no merit and have deep pockets to pay lawyers you're kind of fucked.
If you're in the game industry now, you're probably at more risk of that from some random patent troll, who's suddenly decided they own the idea of render feedback or something.

I'd agree that all the art and sound assets need to be original and properly licensed this time round though.
Yes we know that about the game assets and we'd be totally careful about that.

However with all the respect for inventions and innovations ( including our ones ) there's the point of "but where do you
draw the line" ?

What could prevent one to patent "a method for displaying a cube by rendering 12 triangles on screen" and then claim that
no one can even render a cube on a screen ?

I mean can you patent "anything that comes into your mind" and/or there is some "definition" of what can be patented
and what not ?

And then again .. I think the ONLY ones making something out of patents are the lawyers involved into the causes.

If it's really "so secret" you would not patent it at all, you'd keep it well secluded so nobody can have a hint of a clue about
how it works and how is done.

I think it's unavodaible that soon or later, possibly later, a technology gets "cloned" and/or "replicated" in a different way.
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Speaking of assets - any thoughts on the soundtrack yet? The tunes in T2K really helped to create the atmosphere of the game.
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I think the audio in T2K was a huge part of the appeal, hopefully something can be lined up there. Do we have any good mooosicians around these parts these days ?

Here's an idea - open up a competition for the public to submit audio for use in the game. See if some fan can come up with something great. They'd have to sign a clause that Llamasoft is free to use their stuff as they see fit in its entirety or in bits and pieces.
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Firefox wrote:Speaking of assets - any thoughts on the soundtrack yet? The tunes in T2K really helped to create the atmosphere of the game.
Working on it:

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=84022
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PVB wrote:
Firefox wrote:Speaking of assets - any thoughts on the soundtrack yet? The tunes in T2K really helped to create the atmosphere of the game.
Working on it:

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=84022
Ah, cool!

(I never go in that subforum - playing "Chopsticks" is massively beyond my musical talent. :))
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This is great.

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gilesgoat wrote:What could prevent one to patent "a method for displaying a cube by rendering 12 triangles on screen" and then claim that no one can even render a cube on a screen ?
The patent system's broken, in particular that it was never really intended that it be gamed by big corporations. I'm not intelligent or knowledgeable enough to work out if it's completely broken or just slightly broken though.
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We don't have software patents in New Zealand law. The general opinion being that we don't need them.
Copyright is a different story though, and where look and feel should fall.
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Firefox wrote:
PVB wrote:
Firefox wrote:Speaking of assets - any thoughts on the soundtrack yet? The tunes in T2K really helped to create the atmosphere of the game.
Working on it:
http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=84022
Ah, cool!
(I never go in that subforum - playing "Chopsticks" is massively beyond my musical talent. :))
Follow Jeff on Twitter (@llamasoft_ox). He Tweeted about it on there. :)
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So that was a long week, but I finally got my news post up about TxK. :)

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Thats what I was talking about. LOVE this.
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gravy wrote:Personal assesment of the risk here? V low. It'd be exceptionally poor PR for anyone trying to inflict a dodgy court case on an industry legend.
Yeah, but this is Atari. Remember the rampages they've done on various digital platforms, such as the App Store, in that case culminating in the kicking they gave the Vector Tanks dev? Of course, a smart version of Atari would have done a 'forced' IP merge; but then a smart version of Atari would also have paid Llamasoft to make another Tempest game long ago too.

Regardless, if this is as good as T2K, I'll be buying it on any platform I have access to and probably doing a frothing OHMYGODTHISISAMAZING review in any relevant publication that doesn't want to keep me out through being a bit too enthusiastic about the whole thing.
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Looks like I'm gonna have to buy a Vita :-) Tempest 2K and 3K are are up there in my top 10 favourite games of all time.
Nice to see llamasoft releasing stuff on Android at last will be downloading gridrunneer and donating when I get home from work.
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CraigGrannell wrote:
gravy wrote:Personal assesment of the risk here? V low. It'd be exceptionally poor PR for anyone trying to inflict a dodgy court case on an industry legend.
Yeah, but this is Atari. Remember the rampages they've done on various digital platforms, such as the App Store, in that case culminating in the kicking they gave the Vector Tanks dev? Of course, a smart version of Atari would have done a 'forced' IP merge; but then a smart version of Atari would also have paid Llamasoft to make another Tempest game long ago too.

Regardless, if this is as good as T2K, I'll be buying it on any platform I have access to and probably doing a frothing OHMYGODTHISISAMAZING review in any relevant publication that doesn't want to keep me out through being a bit too enthusiastic about the whole thing.
They also tried to claim every game that says 'written for the the Atari 800/ST/whatever' is actually their IP at one point and started issuing C&Ds to people hosting *their own software*.

That seems to have been short-lived and a few years back though
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sack wrote:
They also tried to claim every game that says 'written for the the Atari 800/ST/whatever' is actually their IP at one point and started issuing C&Ds to people hosting *their own software*.

That seems to have been short-lived and a few years back though
That's a mad situation but console manufacturers have been doing that for years without most people complaining about it.

Only case I can think of was when Accolade managed to succeed in the early 90's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_v._Accolade
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