EU referendum are you in or out

[merman]

Is it going to be over now?

Will the new deal be accepted?

One million marched for a People's Vote.

Parliament didn't even vote on Johnson's Disaster Deal*.

Instead they voted in favour of the Letwin Amendment, meaning Parliament is given more time to assess the impact of the deal and if necessary ask for an extension in the interests of avoiding No Deal.

Johnson lost again, stuck his fingers in his ears and plans to bring legislation to Parliament on Monday to force through his deal.



* it's a disaster because much of the protection for worker's rights, the environment and product standards has been moved from the Withdrawal Agreement (the legal part of the deal) to the Political Declaration (that is NOT legally binding on this or any future Government to actually implement).
There would also HAVE to be a new trade deal with the EU by the end of 2020, else we crash out with No Deal anyway...

[PFVA]

Is it a People's vote on accepting this deal or a People's vote on exiting in the EU.

I watched portions of it today but i was a bit confused about the process.

[Harlequin]

One million marched for a People's Vote.

There were certainly very many people but a million seems highly unlikely.

Is it a People's vote on accepting this deal or a People's vote on exiting in the EU.

There are different variations of second referendum being mooted by different groups but I think they all intend to include both some deal and cancellation of Article 50 as options.

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[KlaxonCow]

One million marched for a People's Vote.

There were certainly very many people but a million seems highly unlikely.

This video gives the best perspective on just how many people were involved, as it provides a sped-up aerial view of the entire march from its beginning to Parliament Square:



And it's worth noting that while the front of the march had already reached Parliament Square, the end of the march was still setting off from the starting point.

The entire march pretty much fills all those Central London streets - and those streets are very wide too, if you've ever been down them - for the whole length of the march route (barring a few bits where it thins out, such as where they've erected a big screen, just past Trafalgar Square - presumably to broadcast what's going on in Parliament Square - and marchers have stopped to watch there. Probably after being told that there's no point marching onto Parliament Square, as it's already filled to capacity as it is, and they'd never fit them all in. So just stop here and watch what's going on from the screen instead).

How many people is that? I don't know if it's a million exactly, but it's certainly "a metric fuck-ton" of people. Of a scale comparable to "a million" that I'm not going to quibble with that description as "good enough", even if not entirely accurate.

[(o)(o)]

Reminds me of the ant infestation I had at a previous property.

Remove food at source.. then they will scatter !

[Harlequin]

One million marched for a People's Vote.

There were certainly very many people but a million seems highly unlikely.

The entire march pretty much fills all those Central London streets - and those streets are very wide too, if you've ever been down them …

I lived near them as a child, have wandered up and down them at all times of day and night when older and often marched along them in protest and celebration.

How many people is that? I don't know if it's a million exactly, but it's certainly "a metric fuck-ton" of people. Of a scale comparable to "a million" that I'm not going to quibble with that description as "good enough", even if not entirely accurate.

I still think probably less than a million but metric fuck-ton will do.

[(o)(o)]

[Barney]

Worst. UI. Ever.

I understood absolutely nothing on those images. What do they mean?

[PFVA]

Please explain to me:

After today's vote does it mean that the UK will for sure be leaving on Jan 31st with this last deal , or there is still some more possibilities.

I'm quite confused with all of this.

[Deckard]

A confused state is a Brexit state of being (for everyone)

[Cloudane]

I'm quite confused with all of this.

Join the club!

This thing has more twists and turns than the panties of the brexiteer who was ranting at our polling station about the standard issue pencils that ((they)) might use an eraser on.

I'm confused and fatigued past the point of caring (as designed, I suppose)

[Ollie]

Worst. UI. Ever.

I understood absolutely nothing on those images. What do they mean?

Essentially that the bookies think there's a fairly low chance (but still a chance) we'll leave the EU by the 31st October, and only a slightly higher chance of an election this December than next year.

[Harlequin]

Please explain to me:
After today's vote does it mean that the UK will for sure be leaving on Jan 31st with this last deal , or there is still some more possibilities.
I'm quite confused with all of this.

It means that the EU will almost certainly be granting a (possibly flexible) extension to at least the end of January. When or if we leave the EU and on what terms is still undecided.

… and only a slightly higher chance of an election this December than next year.

I was reading it the other way around: that they calculate a higher chance of an election next year or later.

[Barney]

It means that the EU will almost certainly be granting a (possibly flexible) extension to at least the end of January. When or if we leave the EU and on what terms is still undecided.

Oooh, Mr Rees-Mogg won't be happy about that - I heard that he was wanting out on Oct 31st due to new laws being introduced on Jan 1st regarding corporate taxation in the EU. Apparently it's going to cost him a shitload of cash if we're still in the EU when that drops.

[Absolute_Zero]

Please explain to me:

After today's vote does it mean that the UK will for sure be leaving on Jan 31st with this last deal , or there is still some more possibilities.

I'm quite confused with all of this.

You would never guess from our clueless broadcast and dead-tree media but there was never any prospect of meeting the Oct 31st deadline on Johnson's (deliberately) absurd timeline. The deal has to be approved by the European Parliament which isn't sitting next week. You can't just 180 the plans of thousands (MEPs & support staff) on a dime.

He wants to force the opposition into a pre-Xmas election vis-a-vis a relatively blame-free extension that negates the no-deal rationale for not having one. Hence with the fall of the program motion, they're back to the Queen's speech. Which the opposition will have to vote down... how could they not?