EU referendum are you in or out

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EU Are you IN or OUT

In
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77%
Out
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17%
Undecided (shake it all about)
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6%
 
Total votes: 127

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Rhythm wrote:Dissing Corbyn in this makes no fucking sense whatsoever. This so-called "unelectable" leader (who was voting in with ~70% of members behind him) runs a supposedly shattered party but even with little effort reportedly 70% of Labour voters voted Remain.

But apparently he's got to go? Fucking nonsensical. I genuinely don't understand what's going on right now but I want away from it as soon as humanly possible
Exactly this.

Still, there are calls for Corbyn to resign from some quarters every time there's a stiff breeze.
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KlaxonCow wrote:Also, does UKIP now cease to exist?
We should be so lucky.

However, consider this: having achieved their primary objective of slaying the supposed Root Of All Evil, they now have no-one else to blame but themselves.
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F-ZeroOne wrote:
KlaxonCow wrote:Also, does UKIP now cease to exist?
We should be so lucky.

However, consider this: having achieved their primary objective of slaying the supposed Root Of All Evil, they now have no-one else to blame but themselves.
And a small majority of the electorate.
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Misfit wrote:
Meow wrote:Britain did the right thing. You've now got a chance to make Britain great again. It's wonderful news.... :D
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And yet, with the right campaigning, it could have been averted.
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So what are people making of the EU Commission President's calls for the UK to 'get started' with Article 50 as soon as possible?
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Rhythm wrote:Dissing Corbyn in this makes no fucking sense whatsoever. This so-called "unelectable" leader (who was voting in with ~70% of members behind him) runs a supposedly shattered party but even with little effort reportedly 70% of Labour voters voted Remain.
63% according to Ashcroft. SNP was 64%, LD 70%, Green 75%.
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Ollie wrote:
Rhythm wrote:Dissing Corbyn in this makes no fucking sense whatsoever. This so-called "unelectable" leader (who was voting in with ~70% of members behind him) runs a supposedly shattered party but even with little effort reportedly 70% of Labour voters voted Remain.
63% according to Ashcroft. SNP was 64%, LD 70%, Green 75%.
But still not "no confidence" levels, IMO
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offyoutoddle wrote:they can disregard it in theory, but in practice it would probably be very unwise.
On the plus side , Cameron has said he will resign. Silver lining and all?
Should a decision like this not require at least a 66% majority?

Cameron said long ago that he planned to step down before the next election.
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venusian wrote:I'm wondering if a snap general election won by a party with a remain manifesto pledge would derail the referendum result. It would mean alot of MPs falling on their swords for the greater good though.
I think that could work technically as the referendum was not legally binding. I think the only major fallout from not invoking Article 50 would be damage to the Conservative Party (or any party which supported Leave) if it holds a Commons majority.

Alternatively, a second referendum "because the result of the first was so close" might work now many Leavers are beginning to accept they were fed bullshit.
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Well,we are now officially in CASE NIGHTMARE TWEED:

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k345y wrote:
F-ZeroOne wrote:
KlaxonCow wrote:Also, does UKIP now cease to exist?
We should be so lucky.

However, consider this: having achieved their primary objective of slaying the supposed Root Of All Evil, they now have no-one else to blame but themselves.
And a small majority of the electorate.
Some of whom may be starting to have second thoughts:

http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/upd ... exit-vote/
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Worst possible outcome.

If you voted Leave, you devalued the pound that you wanted to keep, shrank the economy and cost the country billions in investments.

And if you still want to trade with Europe, there will still be freedom of movement for labour. So all those Eastern Europeans you didn't want here can still come here.
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Space Cowboy wrote:So what are people making of the EU Commission President's calls for the UK to 'get started' with Article 50 as soon as possible?
Well, I did earlier suggest that the EU wouldn't be minded to be nice and friendly about this.

It's not just that we have, after all, just told them all to go fuck themselves, which is never the greatest prelude to amiable negotiation, but they need this to be painful for us. Because there are other EU countries who could follow with their own EU exit, so they need Brexit to look like a living nightmare as a deterrent. And, of course, they need to prevent the loss of more EU members, lest it provoke a haemorrhage, leaving the EU bleeding to death.

This does not bode well, mind you. Because even though I was predicting it wouldn't be nice and friendly, not even I was expecting to see Mr. Juncker saying "[we call for the UK] to give effect to this decision of the British people as soon as possible, however painful that process may be" merely hours after the result.

However painful it may be.

Because, indeed, from their perspective, if it's painful then that actually suits their interests. So, yeah, he's demanding article 50 be instituted right away, without delay, because that would help raise the pain levels. In fact, if Article 50 is invoked, then there's a two year time limit from that point - the clock starts ticking and, by default, you're automatically out within 2 years.

I thought this might happen, but was not expecting to have Juncker himself uttering "however painful it may be" on the very same day as the result, so maybe even I was underestimating how nasty things might possibly get here.
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Darkflame wrote:History books - simplifying everything - will remember him as the one that was against it, and his successor as the one that actually made the uk leave.
If history makes any sense, he'll be remembered as the man who set in motion possibly the biggest cockup in the history of the UK.
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Meow wrote:
Misfit wrote:
Meow wrote:Britain did the right thing. You've now got a chance to make Britain great again. It's wonderful news.... :D
Says the person not living in the UK...
I''m British and I help Britain make the right and only choice. :skip: YAY
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