Next Gen - The Verdict

[TFO]

Just seen the XBOX One reveal.
I'm no fanboy, but the PS4 seems to win the battle of the "more of the same" but more powerful competition.

[gilesgoat]

I have seen it all too togeter with Yak ..

So .. they made a bit of "mix & match" between Win8, Xbox OS and something else, "funny" the Win8 look of the "dashboard".

I was hoping they were telling a bit more about tech especially graphic capabilities but they did not touch much the subject.

It clearly was a bit of a presentation like "ok but we really don't have very much to show now".

First impression been "wow, looks like a 1980 VHS unit" .. but let's say "I don't care about that" as long as it does the job.

I don't quite buy that much all that thing about TV and such but I can see "it makes some sense" I am amazed they have
not mentioned ( not that I give a shit of but ) stuff like "twittwer and facebook" actually "nice they have not"

I was hoping to see more about games, for one like me that really does not give almost a shit about watching sport on TV/playing sport games all that "sport section" means really zero.

There was LOT of claiming about "improvements" of things and/or this "making them more immersive" without really giving
a practical example of "ok but what IS this stuff that makes it 'improved' ?".

The only "real demonstration" of something been that COD Ghost, impressive, yet not totally clear about "how much is
real in-game-interactive stuff vs scripted stuff" but at least "gave a bit of a look" of what the new Xbox could do.

However in all and all that presentation at least did really not presented "that much" or "that much new" but let's wait and
see until "the real stuff" will start to come out.

Certainly, not the kind of stuff that could make me say "I want an Xbox one NOW" .. have to see the price of it as well.

So in short "interesting, but I want to see more".

Let's put it this way "Oculus Rift" ? THAT's NEW I WANT IT NOW !

Leap Motion ? THAT'S a thing I WANT ONE NOW !

Xbox One is more "nice but let's wait a bit more to see what else" before to open the wallet.

We'll see what wonders they'll show at E3 then.

[pogo]

I hope that's not the final design as it looks horrible, like an anonymous media player with random styling attached to make it look different. Big image:

Spoiler: show

Compared to the level of fit and finish on e.g. Apple products today that just looks cheap, with badly matched parts which don't line up and lots of plastic. It's not a $99 Android box it's a high-end device. Hardly looks like one though.

[gilesgoat]

@Pogo : to be fair nor the Wii, nor the ( original ) PS3 ( George Foreman's grill ) were "that brilliant".

I suppose they had "tech issues" about the shape BUT certainly "it's not so well designed like the 360 was".

[edit] - "The problem" is that Apple has ( or had ? ) really good designers, MS not ..

[TFO]

Completely with you on the 1980s VHS box look there Giles

There really isn't anything right now that makes me want one

[techno12]

Yup - I thought "video recorder" when I first saw it, but once it's sat under the telly I don't care what it looks like, so long as it doesn't sound like a hoover like my 360 did.

The 'tech comparison' towards the end was interesting, and if it's really 60fps locked then I'd be happy, though it's COD (which is a glitchy jerky mess on occasion, well the latest one was).

Should be an interesting E3.

[Yak]

I do like the look of the controller mind

[chub]

I bet a quid the Xbox One doesn't work with my cable digibox. Here in Finland we don't even have most of the Xbox 360 apps you lot have in the UK, and I can't see the next Xbox being any better.

I don't understand Microsoft's whole set-top box strategy anyway. They said it will make watching TV easier. Currently I turn on my TV and my digibox, and I watch TV. It has an EPG. I can search for programmes. It records things. I don't see how using an Xbox instead makes it better.

[TFO]

Should be an interesting E3.

Yep. Happy to be blown away by revealed stuff in a few weeks

[fog]

I've already posted this on the games board, but it's looking like the PS4 is an easy choice for me personally.

Also:

But games will be tied to an Xbox Live account, Wired reveals—or else you'd just be able to pass games around to everyone you know. And if you want to link a game to a second account, you'll have to pay a fee:

What follows naturally from this is that each disc would have to be tied to a unique Xbox Live account, else you could take a single disc and pass it between everyone you know and copy the game over and over. Since this is clearly not going to happen, each disc must then only install for a single owner.

Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.

But what if a second person simply wanted to put the disc in and play the game without installing – and without paying extra? In other words, what happens to our traditional concept of a “used game”? This is a question for which Microsoft did not yet have an answer, and is surely something that game buyers (as well as renters and lenders) will want to know.

http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-is-not-alway ... -509077987

[D.J.Fudge]

Spielberg does Halo

[Jamesac]

Xbox One is an easy pass for me, so far. There's no reason to own this and more reasons not to are popping up now that the press conference is over. Next up is seeing how many of these reasons will hold true on PS4. I'm hoping none of them, but we'll see.

James

[TFO]

Both Nintendo and Sony share prices have gone up since the reveal...

[chub]

[pogo]

Here's another picture. It doesn't look so bad in this: it looks like it's meant to both mirror the Kinect and have a certain symmetry to it. The problem with that though is it will only work lit like this at this angle, which only works in publicity photos like this.
And, again unlike Apple, MS don't have their own line of stores to show it off. They'll have to rely on retailers for whom it will only be one of many boxes and who will want to promote whatever sells well.

I think the designs important as the specs are pretty much the same between the two platforms: they both seem more than good enough and neither has any obvious shortcomings. Sony could still fuck things up but I suspect their box will be much sexier and alluring.