The Sony PS3 thread (apparently *still* obnoxious!)
Sony generally seem to make crap software full stop. Given their approach to drivers/software for mobile phones and copy protection on DVDs, it wouldn't be entirely surprising if they'd made an almighty balls-up of it.
The real question is: if pirated games are openly available, will it help or hurt Sony overall?
The real question is: if pirated games are openly available, will it help or hurt Sony overall?
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But if it becomes clear that they weren't protecting the IP of third party publishers, a lot of them would choose to not support the machine. Why release on a machine thats very easy to pirate on when the competition isn't?aureole wrote:It could help in the short term "can pirate games" will become a selling point to some people
Fair enough, sorry for misunderstanding your point. I think you're right that a single standard gaming platform would massively expand the appeal of gaming to Joe Public. Thing is, it would kill off hardware innovation overnight.Hajile wrote: You misunderstand me. That's not even close to what I said, and you're filling in the blanks with your own perspective.
I liked the last generation or two simply because I wasn't being aggravated by rabid slagging matches, both between users and between companies. Nothing else. It wasn't a headache, and I didn't find myself having to immediately go on the defensive when I told someone I was mainly using a particular console. After the Megadrive/SNES wars of the generation before I found it quite refreshing and peaceful, and thought that the industry had matured (or, indeed, evolved) to the point where foaming at the mouth nutcases would no longer alienate and prevent a casual audience becoming involved just because they were afraid of pitching their tent on the wrong side and copping an earful. I don't need any other reason. Mentioning power of the console or the price is missing the point of what I'm getting at, and any other reasons you can bring up would be just an attempt to put your words in my mouth.
I'm all for evolution of the games industry, but I feel that it'll come about through a change in business models and public representation rather than controllers or high definition.
I would controversially argue that this is what has happened to an extent with Sony. The original PlayStation was an absolute masterpiece that blew the competition right out of the water. But they've enjoyed such dominance since then, that the incentive to produce truly great hardware hasn't been there. Ignoring the PS2's undeniably excellent software library, in hardware terms it was a very disappointing machine. I think for a lot of people the PS3 has proved similarly disappointing, so far.
If they've got 80% of the userbase, you suck it up and make games for them I guess. I don't really know so much about this.Flabio wrote:But if it becomes clear that they weren't protecting the IP of third party publishers, a lot of them would choose to not support the machine. Why release on a machine thats very easy to pirate on when the competition isn't?aureole wrote:It could help in the short term "can pirate games" will become a selling point to some people
Not a euphemism! I was referring to the fact that if there ever was such a think as a bright pink Gamecube, it certainly wasn't common.betamax wrote:Gaming euphemisms! Get 'Chore gaming euphemisms!! They're Luvverly!seibu wrote:I want your bright pink Gamecube!!Duck Turkin wrote: Ugly? If you think a bright pink cube with a handle on it is pretty...
Personally I'd take a piece of clean, unique and bold design like the 'cube over a high-end hi-fi imitation (with a huge tray sticking out of the bottom) any day of the week.
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It was a very nice little console, with an average controller and it proved that if you give an infinite number of monkeys a devkit, you'll come out with about as many decent titles as the N64 had. But it wasn't a masterpiece, unless you are an FMV fetishist.seibu wrote:The original PlayStation was an absolute masterpiece
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Sorry, I thought you'd made a clever gaming-flavoured reference to the female genitals. Apologiesseibu wrote:Not a euphemism! I was referring to the fact that if there ever was such a think as a bright pink Gamecube, it certainly wasn't common.betamax wrote:Gaming euphemisms! Get 'Chore gaming euphemisms!! They're Luvverly!seibu wrote:I want your bright pink Gamecube!!Duck Turkin wrote: Ugly? If you think a bright pink cube with a handle on it is pretty...
Personally I'd take a piece of clean, unique and bold design like the 'cube over a high-end hi-fi imitation (with a huge tray sticking out of the bottom) any day of the week.
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I can put up with a lot, but this is a pretty blinkered statement. I'd be *very* hard pushed to name as many N64 must haves as I can PS1 ones.goatboy wrote:It was a very nice little console, with an average controller and it proved that if you give an infinite number of monkeys a devkit, you'll come out with about as many decent titles as the N64 had.
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The original playstation also had a raft of obscure RPG titles that many people would rate as must haves. The comparison is, at base, unfair.Flabio wrote:I can put up with a lot, but this is a pretty blinkered statement. I'd be *very* hard pushed to name as many N64 must haves as I can PS1 ones.goatboy wrote:It was a very nice little console, with an average controller and it proved that if you give an infinite number of monkeys a devkit, you'll come out with about as many decent titles as the N64 had.
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I was really only thinking of the Saturn. I think the PlayStation hardware pretty much blew the Saturn out of the water. the N64 came along quite a lot later, when I think Sony already had a big head start. Had the PS1 and N64 come out at more or less the same time, history might have been very different!goatboy wrote:It was a very nice little console, with an average controller and it proved that if you give an infinite number of monkeys a devkit, you'll come out with about as many decent titles as the N64 had. But it wasn't a masterpiece, unless you are an FMV fetishist.seibu wrote:The original PlayStation was an absolute masterpiece
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Obscure for a reasonbetamax wrote:The original playstation also had a raft of obscure RPG titles that many people would rate as must haves. The comparison is, at base, unfair.Flabio wrote:I can put up with a lot, but this is a pretty blinkered statement. I'd be *very* hard pushed to name as many N64 must haves as I can PS1 ones.goatboy wrote:It was a very nice little console, with an average controller and it proved that if you give an infinite number of monkeys a devkit, you'll come out with about as many decent titles as the N64 had.
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