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HGFB wrote:I liked the fact that even while dead Jack could tell that someone was kissing him. :)
See, I got a bit bored of that during Torchwood. After knocking around the place (literally) for a couple hundred years, you'd'a thought he'd've taken up a hobby or something.

Someone needs to get him a DS or something, take his mind off his tadger for five seconds.
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Dunno which Torchwood you were watching there Bog. Jack was very restained in S1. Not at all like his normal self (Hitting on anything that twitches)/ Biggest problem in Torchwood IMO.
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Just had a thought.
Reckon one of them Time Lord to Human converter wossnames could restore Jack's mortality?
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Post by offyoutoddle »

on the subject of Torchwood, will there be another series?

Also, the last episode seemed to me to show the Tardis materialising in the underground Torchwood base, so the way Jack got back with the Doctor didn't seem to tie up to me. Did anyone else think this or have I missed something?
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Bog wrote:Just had a thought.
Reckon one of them Time Lord to Human converter wossnames could restore Jack's mortality?
I think *something* is going to do it by the end of the series. It's entirely possible that Rose spotted something coming she wasn't going to be able to deal with and dumped a chunk of Vortex energy into Jack so he could deal with it later. I think Torchwood S2 will definately have a mortal Jack
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offyoutoddle wrote:on the subject of Torchwood, will there be another series?
Yes. They started filming about a month ago. To be broadcast in Jan
Also, the last episode seemed to me to show the Tardis materialising in the underground Torchwood base, so the way Jack got back with the Doctor didn't seem to tie up to me. Did anyone else think this or have I missed something?
Cockup. Torchwood finale was written well before the script for Utopia.
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HGFB wrote:[...] Jack was very restained in S1. Not at all like his normal self (Hitting on anything that twitches)/ Biggest problem in Torchwood IMO.
Agreed. He just was not proper Captain Jack without flirting with everyon^H^Hthing that he encountered.

Nice to see the real Jack back again.
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HGFB wrote:The Master has always had much more technical ability than the Doctor.
Not sure about that. To me he seemed to be the better one to go to for a plan, but the Doctor has always specialised in winging it. Easily bored by plans. And not very good at them if his efforts to repair the TARDIS years ago are owt to go by :D.
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IronGiant wrote:
HGFB wrote: You think too much. Stop thinking!
:lol:

But I LIKE thinking and I love programmes that make me think ....... on that count Utopia was a winner. ;)
I'm the other way. I'll leave the agonising over science and extremely minor plot points to the hardcore Star Trek fans. This is Doctor Who, it has never sought to over-analyse those sort of things. I mean, it is a show about a guy who can travel in time and space, yet everywhere he goes he gets to speak English with people. The whole show has always required a certain element of suspension of disbelief just to work, especially regarding language. IIRC the very first story had cavemen speaking English.

So what makes me chuckle is that with all the nit-picking going on no-one seems to have wondered why everyone is still speaking English trillions of years in the future. The "TARDIS translates" thing doesn't really work well either seeing as everyone's mouth movements still synch up and you know that English will still be spoken by anyone they come across after the Master has nicked the TARDIS.

There is an argument that the physicality of humans may do the same mutations again and again, so the guys in the future look the same as us, but there is no way that language would always develop exactly the same way.

But then again, none of this bothers me. Suspension of disbelief and all that. I just enjoy the show.
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Would any other sci-fi show be able to have the protagonist say "timey wimey" stuff in all seriousness and not be laughed off the planet? That's one thing I love about Who - less serious stuff like that happily co-exists with the more serious drama.
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IronGiant wrote:It's usually the lousy, overloud music that drowns out the dialogue.
Yes that is often the case in many TV shows and movies. And it really sucks if you don't have subtitling available. They should tone down the music during intensive dialogue sequences. :?
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amanset wrote:So what makes me chuckle is that with all the nit-picking going on no-one seems to have wondered why everyone is still speaking English trillions of years in the future. The "TARDIS translates" thing doesn't really work well either seeing as everyone's mouth movements still synch up and you know that English will still be spoken by anyone they come across after the Master has nicked the TARDIS.
I think that DW handles this rather better than Star Trek as the telepathic link to the TARDIS changes the perceptions of its passengers, and by implication the viewers, so that language is perceived as if were being used natively. A side-effect of this is that most written languages also appear to be in English to those for whom English is their first language.[*l]
amanset wrote:But then again, none of this bothers me. Suspension of disbelief and all that. I just enjoy the show.
Indeed. DW has never been hard Science Fiction but SciFi fantasy, while decisions between consistency and story flow/fun have generally been made in favour of the latter.

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[*][/size] Let us forget, for the moment, such questions as to the TARDIS's telepathic range (it has been removed before, in space at least if not in time) and why, say, things appeared to be written in French in episodes filmed in France and why...
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offyoutoddle wrote:Well I just thought that maybe the Face of Boe chose his words to suit the circumstance, rather then him being called YANA for that reason. Maybe Boe was a poetic little fellow.
Well, we're not yet done with Boe, apparently, so maybe we'll find out.
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Hmm... I wonder how the Doc an' all would have figures out the sten radiation room without Jack...
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Kamineko wrote:Hmm... I wonder how the Doc an' all would have figures out the sten radiation room without Jack...
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