Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread
Hey, some of us are interested to point out the obvious and correct the misunderstandings. People are different, talk about the things you're interested and everything is fine. If I'm bored by that I just don't use my time to participate.Flabio wrote:Every time someone mentions the remote we have this argument. Every bloody time.
Bored now. Talk about something else.
I'll try my best not to.Flabio wrote:If you did it without the air of condescending self-righteousness you tend to use I probably wouldn't mind.Samus wrote:Hey, some of us are interested to point out the obvious and correct the misunderstandings.
EDIT: I've heard this before on WoS too, the thing is, I'm not sure how else to put things. If I point out something (point by point) that clearly isn't the case, it's bound to annoy some people. Maybe if you'd show me where the bad air comes from then I could learn to put it some other way?
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Interesting but not really a surprise. This new market that Nintendo have tapped into which everyone keeps talking about aren't going to be the sort of people to buy a lot of software even if it was available.flookster wrote: * Xbox 360: hardware to software ratio: 6.59 (hardware total sold = 6.8 million; software total sold = 44.8 million)
* PlayStation 3: hardware to software ratio: 3.58 (hardware total sold = 1.9 million; software total sold = 6.8 million)
* Wii: hardware to software ratio: 3.44 (hardware total sold = 4.5 million; software total sold = 15.5 million)
The Wii figures include Wii Play so essentially a $10 game makes up a significant chunk of the Wii sales ratio.
1/10th of a game difference between Wii and PS3 tie-over isnt much though.
Especialy as lots of PS3's were also packaged with games.
How does this 3.5 figure compare to previous gen's 1-year-in?
Seems quite reasonable to me.
Especialy as lots of PS3's were also packaged with games.
How does this 3.5 figure compare to previous gen's 1-year-in?
Seems quite reasonable to me.
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I believe not - doesnt this data come from NPD? As someone on another site mentioned - how much affect does Wii Play have in the bag ? If we assume everyone bought Wii Play for the remote (cough) then that would push the h2s even lower.Flabio wrote:Nearly 7 for the 360 is quite high. Do we know if they're factoring live arcade sales into that?
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But couldn't Ninty have put the option of using the Classic Controller or a Gamecube pad in MP3 anyway? The way Samus moves her head using the Wiimote seems (to me, anyway) like she's shitfaced all the time.
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Yeah that's pretty much what flookster said earlier.benedictw wrote:I believe not - doesnt this data come from NPD? As someone on another site mentioned - how much affect does Wii Play have in the bag ? If we assume everyone bought Wii Play for the remote (cough) then that would push the h2s even lower.Flabio wrote:Nearly 7 for the 360 is quite high. Do we know if they're factoring live arcade sales into that?
I also think you could argue that the 360 figures suffer because it has been out for longer as those figures assume everyone has had the console since launch. This is obviously not the case and, at a guess, around half those 360 owners will have only had their consoles for as long as PS3 or Wii owners. Therefore their software purchases will be dragging the average down, with longer 360 owners having considerably more than the average shown.
I know from my own personal experience I have 5x the number of 360 games as I have Wii or PS3 and based on my friends list I'd say that number of 360 games isn't uncommon.
Those NPD figures are way off Nintendo's figures, which is odd. I wouldn't expect that much discrepancy.
Nintendo's corporate accounts show the following (up to end Sep 07):
Wii Hardware:
Japan = 3.67M, Americas = 5.46M, Worldwide = 13.2M
Wii Software:
Japan = 11.9M, Americas = 33.5M, Worldwide = 65.8M
Wii Software:Hardware Ratios:
Japan = 3.24:1, Americas = 6.14:1, Worldwide = 5.0:1
The PS2 by comparison (June 30 2001):
PS2 Hardware Sales:
Japan: 5.94M, Americas: 5.15M, Worldwide: 14.95
PS2 Software Sales:
Japan: 20.3M, Americas: 19.0M, Worldwide: 49.8M
PS2 Software:Hardware Ratios:
Japan = 3.42:1, Americas = 3.70:1, Worldwide = 3.33:1
Last November the 360 had sold around 5million consoles worldwide, and had an attach rate of 5.2, which people were worrying was too high.
Nintendo's corporate accounts show the following (up to end Sep 07):
Wii Hardware:
Japan = 3.67M, Americas = 5.46M, Worldwide = 13.2M
Wii Software:
Japan = 11.9M, Americas = 33.5M, Worldwide = 65.8M
Wii Software:Hardware Ratios:
Japan = 3.24:1, Americas = 6.14:1, Worldwide = 5.0:1
The PS2 by comparison (June 30 2001):
PS2 Hardware Sales:
Japan: 5.94M, Americas: 5.15M, Worldwide: 14.95
PS2 Software Sales:
Japan: 20.3M, Americas: 19.0M, Worldwide: 49.8M
PS2 Software:Hardware Ratios:
Japan = 3.42:1, Americas = 3.70:1, Worldwide = 3.33:1
Last November the 360 had sold around 5million consoles worldwide, and had an attach rate of 5.2, which people were worrying was too high.


