Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:20 am 0

Every time someone mentions the remote we have this argument. Every bloody time.

Bored now. Talk about something else.

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:20 am 0

flookster wrote:I will probably purchase Galaxy...but I'm not feeling too postive about either of them.

Ok.

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:22 am 0

Flabio wrote:Every time someone mentions the remote we have this argument. Every bloody time.

Bored now. Talk about something else.

Hey, some of us are interested to point out the obvious and correct the misunderstandings. People are different, talk about the things you're interested and everything is fine. If I'm bored by that I just don't use my time to participate.

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:23 am 0

Samus wrote:Hey, some of us are interested to point out the obvious and correct the misunderstandings.

If you did it without the air of condescending self-righteousness you tend to use I probably wouldn't mind.

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:24 am 0

Flabio wrote:
Samus wrote:Hey, some of us are interested to point out the obvious and correct the misunderstandings.
If you did it without the air of condescending self-righteousness you tend to use I probably wouldn't mind.

I'll try my best not to.

EDIT: I've heard this before on WoS too, the thing is, I'm not sure how else to put things. If I point out something (point by point) that clearly isn't the case, it's bound to annoy some people. Maybe if you'd show me where the bad air comes from then I could learn to put it some other way?

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:59 am 0

Im not good at fps and not a hardcore Ninty fan and I find the control in Corruption spot on - cant imagine SMG and Mario Kart will be anything less than perfect,

fog · Post by **fog** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:07 pm 0

flookster wrote: * Xbox 360: hardware to software ratio: 6.59 (hardware total sold = 6.8 million; software total sold = 44.8 million)
* PlayStation 3: hardware to software ratio: 3.58 (hardware total sold = 1.9 million; software total sold = 6.8 million)
* Wii: hardware to software ratio: 3.44 (hardware total sold = 4.5 million; software total sold = 15.5 million)

The Wii figures include Wii Play so essentially a $10 game makes up a significant chunk of the Wii sales ratio.

Interesting but not really a surprise. This new market that Nintendo have tapped into which everyone keeps talking about aren't going to be the sort of people to buy a lot of software even if it was available.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:17 pm 0

1/10th of a game difference between Wii and PS3 tie-over isnt much though.
Especialy as lots of PS3's were also packaged with games.

How does this 3.5 figure compare to previous gen's 1-year-in?
Seems quite reasonable to me.

amanset · Post by **amanset** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:21 pm 0

fog wrote: Interesting but not really a surprise. This new market that Nintendo have tapped into which everyone keeps talking about aren't going to be the sort of people to buy a lot of software even if it was available.

Lucky that they make money on the hardware then.

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:22 pm 0

Nearly 7 for the 360 is quite high. Do we know if they're factoring live arcade sales into that?

And everyone except Sony makes money on their hardware now (well, if you ignore the repair bill...)

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:52 pm 0

Flabio wrote:Nearly 7 for the 360 is quite high. Do we know if they're factoring live arcade sales into that?

I believe not - doesnt this data come from NPD? As someone on another site mentioned - how much affect does Wii Play have in the bag ? If we assume everyone bought Wii Play for the remote (cough) then that would push the h2s even lower.

Jonesey · Post by **Jonesey** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:02 pm 0

But couldn't Ninty have put the option of using the Classic Controller or a Gamecube pad in MP3 anyway? The way Samus moves her head using the Wiimote seems (to me, anyway) like she's shitfaced all the time.

fog · Post by **fog** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:05 pm 0

benedictw wrote:
Flabio wrote:Nearly 7 for the 360 is quite high. Do we know if they're factoring live arcade sales into that?
I believe not - doesnt this data come from NPD? As someone on another site mentioned - how much affect does Wii Play have in the bag ? If we assume everyone bought Wii Play for the remote (cough) then that would push the h2s even lower.

Yeah that's pretty much what flookster said earlier.

I also think you could argue that the 360 figures suffer because it has been out for longer as those figures assume everyone has had the console since launch. This is obviously not the case and, at a guess, around half those 360 owners will have only had their consoles for as long as PS3 or Wii owners. Therefore their software purchases will be dragging the average down, with longer 360 owners having considerably more than the average shown.

I know from my own personal experience I have 5x the number of 360 games as I have Wii or PS3 and based on my friends list I'd say that number of 360 games isn't uncommon.

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:10 pm 0

Well Mario Kart and SMG will be attached to pretty much every Wii on the planet in the next few months...

Roobarb · Post by **Roobarb** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:17 pm 0

Those NPD figures are way off Nintendo's figures, which is odd. I wouldn't expect that much discrepancy.
Nintendo's corporate accounts show the following (up to end Sep 07):

Wii Hardware:
Japan = 3.67M, Americas = 5.46M, Worldwide = 13.2M

Wii Software:
Japan = 11.9M, Americas = 33.5M, Worldwide = 65.8M

Wii Software:Hardware Ratios:
Japan = 3.24:1, Americas = 6.14:1, Worldwide = 5.0:1

The PS2 by comparison (June 30 2001):

PS2 Hardware Sales:
Japan: 5.94M, Americas: 5.15M, Worldwide: 14.95

PS2 Software Sales:
Japan: 20.3M, Americas: 19.0M, Worldwide: 49.8M

PS2 Software:Hardware Ratios:
Japan = 3.42:1, Americas = 3.70:1, Worldwide = 3.33:1

Last November the 360 had sold around 5million consoles worldwide, and had an attach rate of 5.2, which people were worrying was too high.