bumblebee wrote:ElfQrin wrote:The difference is that European governments decided to invade other territories to colonise them, while we are talking about people who left (even escaped) their countries because their lives were unpleasant where they come from.
Do you know why their lives are unpleasant where they come from?
gilesgoat wrote:Well just to be fair sometime the situation is just a bit "complex".
Was it maybe because someone was coming there trying to colonise them

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bumblebee wrote:
Correct. I would also not call what is happening necessarily racism but just pent up dissatisfaction with everything that has been directed (media, thanks a lot) and nourished (go'ment, too) into a monster. To Mulims their religion is where xtianiy was good 1K years ago and besides being the basis of their faith, it is also the basis of their laws and most importantly, identity. Being a foreigner puts stress on identity and if this is not enough they get their own countries pretty messed up by Amis and Europeans for a loooong time now. If you observe things from their stand point, there is a lot to be unhappy about. Doesn't excuse guys who blow themselves up, but might explain some of their reasoning (if one can call it this way).
Eh .. let's suppose just for hypothesis someone comes into your country with "you HAVE to sell me this OR I'll start
a war againist you" .. or "you HAVE to BUY this stuff I produce AND sell me THAT or I'll start a war againist you" ..
.. or "you HAVE to be in commerce with me OR I'll start a .. " .. or "you HAVE to give me x% of the petrol you have
any year OR I'll stop supporting your current government AND I will leave the ruthless dictator X ( that my secret
services will build up and supply ) take over your country " .. or "you HAVE to accept my PROTECTION to guarantee
your PEACE/SAFETY againist those bloody terrorists ( that my secret services are building and supplying ) that are
out ( but so very close to you ) there mining your safety" .. etc. etc. etc. etc.
.. and lot more .. there's even the "there my FRIEND here is the money I lend you ( well knowing that you will NEVER be
able to repay me back - if not, I will put you in the conditions so you won't be able to ) to HELP you with your economy/etc.
in RETURN you will SELL me ( at my price ) that thing .. ".
Hum .. yes .. if you observe things from various stand points certainly there could be infinite things not to be so happy about ..