Next Gen - The Verdict

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Re: Next Gen - The Verdict

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Darkflame wrote:Would it be possible to have "tv apps"?

That is, apps that manipulate the audio/video stream in some way?

For example;

* logo removing
* credit unsquasher
* volume balancer (+detects that shift that adverts do and auto-reduces)
* IMDB linked facial recognition
* random gunshot effects....letting you blow up that annoying guy.

I could see this being a big new app market.
Apart from the IMDB facial recognition I would imagine the rest of those would get a lot of opposition from the cable providers whose support I assume Microsoft will need.

Anyway you'll be too busy for any of that with TV on one half of the screen, IE on the other, useless information streamed to your Smartglass device which you hold in one hand, gamepad held in the other, while you wave both around to control Kinect, shouting at it constantly.
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Well, maybe not microsoft...but surely someone could do that? Someone that doesn't mind the cable networks hating them?
Maybe one of those Linux consoles? or a tv marker directly?

You could actualy use it to reduce information overload with the right apps. (how about something that just blacks out any popup adverts tv shows get these days?)
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I guess I'll be fighting Bak'laag.
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fog wrote:Anyway you'll be too busy for any of that with TV on one half of the screen, IE on the other, useless information streamed to your Smartglass device which you hold in one hand, gamepad held in the other, while you wave both around to control Kinect, shouting at it constantly.
Or you could just watch telly on your telly and browse the net on your tablet, because that makes a lot more fucking sense..
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Funny - The lads in the office seem genuinely excited by the "One" and they werent bothered before - shows what a half decent demo with some new (to them) tech can do.
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RiK wrote:
fog wrote:Anyway you'll be too busy for any of that with TV on one half of the screen, IE on the other, useless information streamed to your Smartglass device which you hold in one hand, gamepad held in the other, while you wave both around to control Kinect, shouting at it constantly.
Or you could just watch telly on your telly and browse the net on your tablet, because that makes a lot more fucking sense..
Exactly. Most of the features shown were solutions to problems that don't exist. As Darkflame suggests, most people want less clutter not more.
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Fixed it for you.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... n-xbox-one
In contrast to Sony with its PlayStation Store, Nintendo with its eShop and Valve with Steam, Microsoft won't let independent developers self-publish on Xbox One.

Instead, they must seek a publishing deal either with Microsoft itself or a third-party - as is the case with Xbox 360 and Xbox Live Arcade currently.
Indie developers are not pleased, going by the rest of the article.
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As things stand, I'm more likely to add to my retro collection or get a Wii U.

Microsoft are hardware obsessed, and I want a machine that plays games - not an entertainment hub.

Sony have a good attitude towards small developers and are trying to offer something new, but what we've seen so far are shinier versions of what's gone before.

E3 should tell us more about Microsoft, especially the new IP. But for me the key could be Harmonix...
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Apparently indie game developers won't be able to self-publish on XB One.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/79309/ ... lish-games

So another avenue of cheap and interesting games maybe closed off then....
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Anyone mentioned the RAM usage yet?

3Gb for the OS on Xbox One (Hey Skype and IE have to run somewhere)
1Gb for the OS on PS4
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Bloody hell. It sounds like a surface that plays games and movies :lol:
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That's ridiculous. I mean there's no justification for the OS claiming so much on a games machine. Even 1GB is high, given that when playing a game the OS may as well not be there. Sure it provides some services but many of those are part of the game, i.e. linked into it as necessary. Besides the OSes on these should be doing much the same as on the current generation, meaning doing very little as they've got to leave room for the games in the 0.5GB of RAM available.

Could be MS is repeating their mistake with the Surface, including most or all of the desktop version of Windows. You can see the appeal for MS; they'd have essentially the same OS across all platforms, with one API and able to run the same apps with only minimal changes. They at least have a HD for the many GB of cruft its accumulated down the years, so it won't be quite as disastrous as the Surface. But Windows also has a large RAM footprint, especially the 64 bit version.
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pogo wrote:That's ridiculous.
It might be a continuation of their "everything is touch, get over it" theme. If so, they seem to me to be en route to finding out the hard way which is bigger, Microsoft or The Universe.
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During the Xbox One launch they said something about it running 3 instances of the OS, one reason being to make switching between things fast. Presumably that's why it needs so much RAM.
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