EU referendum are you in or out

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I wouldn't do that either and have never said I would either.

And most pubs don't nail their furniture down. Shit ones in shit areas maybe but you can't hold everyone else to blame for your poor choice in pubs.

I'm not in the habbit of choosing when on a bike, it's an observation when I decide to stop because it sticks out like a sore thumb, Ive noticed at least one pup local to family in UK that chain their benches up at night.
Always an insult or jibe with you isn't it.

One pub. Brilliant.

it isn't though is it

http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/pub-fur ... 44991.aspx

http://www.chad.co.uk/news/crime/furnit ... -1-7016138

an obnoxious prick replied to the second one, claiming it was a lie! what a coincidence!

I'll get you photos of rattan furniture in decent areas with chains around, next time Im in the uk. youre such an un-trusting warped minded prick. Stick to your Internet safe zone.

Don't you mean a trusting warped prick?

The core of all of this is I manage to lead a decent, enjoyable life not dominated by fear of theft, crime or the evils of LANE HOGGING as do a lot of other people who live here.

Must suck to be you.

[PumaG]

Is this really the criteria you used in making the decision to move to Belgium? I'm tending to agree with Klaxon here; you're locked in a loop of post rationalization and have zero interest in the facts of the matter.

no, you ignored my comments on that, because you couldn't make it look like a 'lie' to win an argument, back off ffs.

You made a tit of yourself remember, when we talked about the education system and that you insulted europeans? claiming poor english expression on forums must mean second language. If you left your safety zone here, you'd find that contrary to your claim..

[PumaG]

I wouldn't do that either and have never said I would either.

And most pubs don't nail their furniture down. Shit ones in shit areas maybe but you can't hold everyone else to blame for your poor choice in pubs.

I'm not in the habbit of choosing when on a bike, it's an observation when I decide to stop because it sticks out like a sore thumb, Ive noticed at least one pup local to family in UK that chain their benches up at night.
Always an insult or jibe with you isn't it.

One pub. Brilliant.

it isn't though is it

http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/pub-fur ... 44991.aspx

http://www.chad.co.uk/news/crime/furnit ... -1-7016138

an obnoxious prick replied to the second one, claiming it was a lie! what a coincidence!

I'll get you photos of rattan furniture in decent areas with chains around, next time Im in the uk. youre such an un-trusting warped minded prick. Stick to your Internet safe zone.

Don't you mean a trusting warped prick?

The core of all of this is I manage to lead a decent, enjoyable life not dominated by fear of theft, crime or the evils of LANE HOGGING as do a lot of other people who live here.

Must suck to be you.

Wipe the egg off your face regards to the mention of lane hogging. It was mentioned due to the new law being brought in, at the same time as motorway traffic police were replaced with TOS, who cant enforce it, as well as the other laws that affected my issues in the UK and Eu policy (i.e on topic) .

[PumaG]

oh dear gravy

on topic

'Slashed mental health and social budgets have stretched forces to breaking point'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... heresa-may

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Why "oh dear"?

[PumaG]

Why "oh dear"?

"who gives a fuck about police cuts"

plus it doest look pretty does it, under recent circumstances?
still... at least you're safe and happy. That's all that matters here. A Narcissist arnt you?. It explains a lot. Let me have a cup of tea, then I'll tell you you've won, that's what you're after.

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Who said "who gives about police cuts"?

You've been called out for saying the uk is an awful place to live in and claiming crime has got worst in the last 15 years when the opposite is true.

You realize the Paris terrorist attack originated from Belgium?

Using your logic that would be justification for claiming life in Belgium is awful. Which it obviusly isn't

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Is this really the criteria you used in making the decision to move to Belgium? I'm tending to agree with Klaxon here; you're locked in a loop of post rationalization and have zero interest in the facts of the matter.

no, you ignored my comments on that, because you couldn't make it look like a 'lie' to win an argument, back off ffs.

No, you just ignored Klaxon's post about your painful confirmation bias.

[Dio]

R5 had all morning with a referendum phone-in and almost everyone on the leave side surrounds themselves with equally weak arguments.

About one in ten had something genuinely interesting to say (and there are a few interesting aspects of the Leave argument) but the rest were naive, dim or delusional, grannies with the "it were better before we joined" insanity (no, really, it wasn't... I suppose unless your definition of 'better' means 'there were fewer brown people') and on from there through various spectrums of economic delusion.

Still, it's hopefully a convincing argument as to why there should never ever be another referendum on anything.

[PumaG]

Who said "who gives about police cuts"?

You've been called out for saying the uk is an awful place to live in and claiming crime has got worst in the last 15 years when the opposite is true.

You realize the Paris terrorist attack originated from Belgium?

Using your logic that would be justification for claiming life in Belgium is awful. Which it obviusly isn't

Called out? I made comparisons, focused on Belgium being a fairer society, then got called out in a reply, for being a "pig rolling in shit"

As it happens, I bought a laptop(a pre-used dealer) from one of Trump's "no go areas" in Brussels, just before those attacks.
So yeah, I realize.

It should be clear now I talk about personal experience through broadening my horizons , but youre harping on about my logic

Do you realise there are decent people in Belgium and 3 countries across the border who also want out of the EU, but arnt racists?

[PumaG]

R5 had all morning with a referendum phone-in and almost everyone on the leave side surrounds themselves with equally weak arguments.

About one in ten had something genuinely interesting to say (and there are a few interesting aspects of the Leave argument) but the rest were naive, dim or delusional, grannies with the "it were better before we
joined" insanity (no, really, it wasn't... I suppose unless your definition of 'better' means 'there were fewer brown people') and on from there through various spectrums of economic delusion.

Tradespeople I've associated with in the UK, have tended to be anti- Polish and very unfairly from my personal experience with Polish workers and people in the locality.
It appears many are sore, as their obscene hourly rates have come down.




Fuck off gravy...... yes hourly rates another reasonI found Belgium to be "fairier", as per my original remark of fairer society that you twisted. In gravy's society , people don't get overcharged, ripped off or conned.

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Belgium and UK minimum wages are near identical.

[KlaxonCow]

No, you just ignored Klaxon's post about your painful confirmation bias.

Of course he did.

Confirmation bias, innit?

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Do you realise there are decent people in Belgium and 3 countries across the border who also want out of the EU, but arnt racists?

Of course. No one has said otherwise.

Characterising an entire nation because of anecdote is prejudiced.

Saying Belgiums who wanted out of the EU are all racists is prejudiced.

Saying all of the UK is terrible because you saw a chain on a chair outside a pub is prejudiced.

This is prejudiced

Please consider Im looking back at Britain from mainland Europe in one of the most liberal countries in the world. I abandoned all plans to return my family, due to the massive disparity regards to fairness, greed and reason, between the two countries. Pretty much all public services being in a different league and lack of feral youth being the clincher.

Although I can see how that will only have you show more contempt.

Britain's society is fucked. You're being conned left right and center. Being in the EU hasn't helped quality of life get anywhere near most mainland European countries.

[Darkflame]

I'm surprised to discover that she was ever part of it in the first place, to be honest.




Looking at the offending poster, with Nigel posed in front of it, I can't help but think he's not very good at PR, is he?

Because it makes him look like he's one of their number. Like he's their leader, guiding them on their exodus. A latter day Moses, if you will.

Somewhat counter and confused to the message he's actually trying to deliver there.

(That's the thing with negative campaigning that you have to be wary of, as you're constantly presenting yourself right next to negative things all the time, it might unintentionally set up the wrong associations in people's brains. As they keep seeing you and the bad things are mentioned, they see you again and the bad thing is mentioned. You're forever strengthening the negative association in people's minds.)

Assuming you see that as negative in that way.
I now see him as a unfortunate refugee who now needs our help, as its only utter assholes who denigh help to people fleeing from terrorists.

Maybe his propaganda makes sense after all.