EU referendum are you in or out

[gilesgoat]

I am just reading one of the biggest Italian newspapers ( Repubblica ) is going to follow live the stuff tonight and they are going to make a "special" tomorrow, they say the stock market is already in turmoil and someone fears "a black Friday" in case of a brexit.

Nobody really knows/can foresee what is going to be, that's anybody's guess as well as it seems nobody has a genuine clue about what would really happen next if the "remain" looses.

I think it's going to be .. interesting/scary .. it seems that the two different parts are pretty close in % ..

[Baggypants]

Is Boris King yet?

[VNVObit]

Is Boris King yet?

nah, Emperor with new clothes

[tufty]

common sense says stay but admittedly a part of me would like to see what happens if we where to leave but that's probably just out of morbid curiosity.

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Frankly, I don't like the EU very much, built, as it was, as a bastion of capitalism. Indeed, the bit of the EU I really dislike is the bit that's assfucking Greece so hard they're left with a free market aftertaste in the back of the throat.

On the other hand, if it stops Europe tearing itself apart in another part of the 14-18 / 39-45 cycle, that's gotta be good. And although pogo doesn't like it, I'm rather fond of the Euro, and, as someone who doesn't buy into the myth of uniqueness via geographical accident, would quite like to see a federal state of Europe. And the EU seems, ironically enough, the most likely institution to do something about the free-market cuntery that's assraping all of us. So on balance, I'm pro. Plus I live in frogland, a "leave" result puts me in a totally unknown situation.

I'd also love to see Cameron's little electoral bet backfire in a nasty way, leaving him with egg on the face and bacon on the cock, but given it would probably put BoJo or Farage in charge, it would be like watching the mother-in-law driving my new car off a cliff. On the other hand again, if it does backfire, I'm down the town hall tomorrow to apply for political asylum / French citizenship anyway, and the UK can sink as far as I'm concerned...

[PFVA]

Question: What happens if the vote is very close? For example if 44% vote yes and 43% vote no, or vice-versa, do they still go ahead and implement the result?

[gumboot]

Question: What happens if the vote is very close? For example if 44% vote yes and 43% vote no, or vice-versa, do they still go ahead and implement the result?

If we assume that the remaining 13% are those too thick to cast a valid vote then we can safely assume that they're also leavers, so leave should win in that case.

[Dio]

Frankly, I don't like the EU very much, built, as it was, as a bastion of capitalism. Indeed, the bit of the EU I really dislike is the bit that's assfucking Greece so hard they're left with a free market aftertaste in the back of the throat.

Yeah, that's pretty awful, although currently (and indeed throughout most of my life) the EU seems well to the left of the UK.

[Barney]

The Mrs and I have been discussing what we'll do if we do brexit, and we've decided that we want to be part of Europe, so will leave ourselves. She is giving up work next year anyway, and I work for a european company based in Belgium so it makes sense.

[pogo]

Frankly, I don't like the EU very much, built, as it was, as a bastion of capitalism. Indeed, the bit of the EU I really dislike is the bit that's assfucking Greece so hard they're left with a free market aftertaste in the back of the throat.

Yeah, that's pretty awful, although currently (and indeed throughout most of my life) the EU seems well to the left of the UK.

What’s happening to Greece, and within the eurozone more generally, isn’t really a left-right thing. It’s more a combination of economic incompetence and political cowardice, from parties and leaders across the political spectrum in their roles as leaders of the eurozone.

Greece ended up drifting far to the left in response, but they could as easily have drifted right (and might still do so). The same is happening across Europe, extremists on both the left and right growing in influence and power as traditional centre-left and centre-right parties are discredited. UKIP here are sort of like that, except without the economic ruin countries are experiencing within the eurozone their arguments are far less compelling.

[TFO]

Some bookies now offering as bad as 1-8 ON for Remain to win...

[zip accident]

Voted

[Darkflame]

Some bookies now offering as bad as 1-8 ON for Remain to win...

Thats suspiciously strong odds.
Do some bookies do "lose leader" style bets as a "investment" into future gamblers?

[Ollie]

Some bookies now offering as bad as 1-8 ON for Remain to win...

Thats suspiciously strong odds.
Do some bookies do "lose leader" style bets as a "investment" into future gamblers?

They do; Betfair yesterday was offering 4-1 on Remain to win for new users, maximum £10 stake.

[pogo]

Bookies’ odds should closely track betting patterns. Clearly a lot more people (or a lot more money) are betting on Remain.

The markets seem convinced Remain will win. The pound is now up 2.01% on the day, about 7% on the week It’s at its highest level against the dollar in 2016, wiping out the losses experienced during the campaign.

[PFVA]

I am just reading one of the biggest Italian newspapers ( Repubblica ) is going to follow live the stuff tonight and they are going to make a "special" tomorrow, they say the stock market is already in turmoil and someone fears "a black Friday" in case of a brexit.

Nobody really knows/can foresee what is going to be, that's anybody's guess as well as it seems nobody has a genuine clue about what would really happen next if the "remain" looses.

I think it's going to be .. interesting/scary .. it seems that the two different parts are pretty close in % ..

Here too. The news are concentrated on Brexit and on the National Team and the Euro Cup. Nothing elese is happening in the world.

Fun enough was seeing one of the leaders of the Popular Party (conservative) going on and on against Cameron for deciding to do the referendum. They are scared everybody else going to ask for referendums and that everybody else may want want to do their own thing rather than just follow the EU instructions.