EU referendum are you in or out

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EU Are you IN or OUT

In
98
77%
Out
21
17%
Undecided (shake it all about)
8
6%
 
Total votes: 127

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Re: EU referendum are you in or out

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gumboot wrote:If history makes any sense, he'll be remembered as the man who set in motion possibly the biggest cockup in the history of the UK.
Well, indeed, as it'll possibly be the cock-up that ends the UK chapter of the history books, with the Scots leaving shortly and, thus, dissolving the Acts of Union, so that there is no UK anymore.
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Is anyone else seeing the corporate emails reassuring their EU staff that their jobs in the UK will be safe?

Mine promised to lobby for continuation of free travel and work even while the rest of the economy is getting reamed.


On the plus side, my shares don't seem to have dropped. They went up 10% as the pound went down 10%.

So I've only lost $60k or thereabouts, so far.
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KlaxonCow wrote:
gumboot wrote:If history makes any sense, he'll be remembered as the man who set in motion possibly the biggest cockup in the history of the UK.
Well, indeed, as it'll possibly be the cock-up that ends the UK chapter of the history books, with the Scots leaving shortly and, thus, dissolving the Acts of Union, so that there is no UK anymore.
Thanks, Dave!

Or hashtag that, I guess.
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King Boris being hailed in celebration by his loyal and faithful subjects:




Farage, the snake oil salesman, openly confessing that they basically lied about the "more money for the NHS" claims:

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Whatever your view nothing was worth having a lying adultering Boris Johnson as PM
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there are calls for Corbyn to resign from some quarters every time there's a stiff breeze.
He's the man for the job.
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"We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum."

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Already nearly 50,000 over the target 100,000.
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KlaxonCow wrote:It's not just that we have, after all, just told them all to go fuck themselves, which is never the greatest prelude to amiable negotiation, but they need this to be painful for us. Because there are other EU countries who could follow with their own EU exit, so they need Brexit to look like a living nightmare as a deterrent. And, of course, they need to prevent the loss of more EU members, lest it provoke a haemorrhage, leaving the EU bleeding to death.
Now, there's about 60 million souls on these isles. Only 17 million of them voted to leave. Were the EU to administer any kind of economic punishment beating to the majority of people, who did not or could not vote, then that would be the main reason I'd find (amongst very few indeed) to be happy about leaving.
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So what amazing deals is the UK ... .errr.. .England going to negotiate out of this ?

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I'm guessing we'll lean more heavily toward the cheap chinese typa crap..
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Space Cowboy wrote:So what are people making of the EU Commission President's calls for the UK to 'get started' with Article 50 as soon as possible?
I was (and remain) dead set against us leaving, but if we say we're leaving I think they get to have a say how and when. Our situation affects theirs while we're in, and if our economy tanks then theirs is going to suffer. If we're set on doing our own thing, then they don't want to get dragged along for the ride. They have the right to tell us to fuck off now.

Basically, Daddy asked the kids if mummy and him should get a divorce. The kids said yes, and he went ahead with it. Mummy has a right to her say (Daddy's probably not getting all of his CDs back...)

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So, we haven't actually left yet. Article 50 hasn't been invoked etc etc.

So, basically everything is, as it was.
Why are things like the pound moving sharply? Sentiment, driven by people basically wittering on about things they can not possible know or predict.

It won't be until the dust settles in a number of years whether anyone can say if this was a good or bad move. Yes, years.

Take this thread for instance. Lots of people here saying what a catostrophically bad decision it would be to leave. Based on what exactly? Nothing more than conjecture at this point, whatever spin you want to put on it.

For the record, I'm not saying whether it was a right or wrong decision, because as I said above we can't possibly know yet. (and I voted remain in case you was wondering).

Hyperbole? Lots for sure in the coming weeks and months.
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Anyone else getting end-of-world opportunities email?

UKForex are reminding me that I should think about exploiting or panic-selling the low currency value.

If I could panic sell I would have done so already.
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I'm dissapointed that people seem to think the pound hit a 1985 low and stayed there.
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Baggypants wrote:I'm dissapointed that people seem to think the pound hit a 1985 low and stayed there.
I'm impressed that a 31-year low could be so high.

Unless the USD is taking a hit as well, in which case maybe the low is lower than what I'm looking at. I see it being only five cents lower than what it is now.
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Governmentyard wrote:
KlaxonCow wrote:It's not just that we have, after all, just told them all to go fuck themselves, which is never the greatest prelude to amiable negotiation, but they need this to be painful for us. Because there are other EU countries who could follow with their own EU exit, so they need Brexit to look like a living nightmare as a deterrent. And, of course, they need to prevent the loss of more EU members, lest it provoke a haemorrhage, leaving the EU bleeding to death.
Now, there's about 60 million souls on these isles. Only 17 million of them voted to leave. Were the EU to administer any kind of economic punishment beating to the majority of people, who did not or could not vote, then that would be the main reason I'd find (amongst very few indeed) to be happy about leaving.
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