EU referendum are you in or out

[snaff]

The EU seem to want the exit over and done with as quickly as possible. Anything that draws it out gives publicity to it, and increases chances of contagion to other member states.

[TFO]

What a mess. Personally I can't see it changing (the EU already seem to want us out regardless after this) but we can expect some very angry old people if it does get overturned. Riots, surely

Riots and counter-riots. The under 45s against the over 75s...

[merman]

Let's take our country back...

And let the Tory Party decide who our next Prime Minister is, and who will be heading the negotiations.

And let racists up and down the country feel legitimised into attacking a Polish centre in London, telling immigrants to "go home" and the National Front to rear up again.

And devalue our own currency by 10%.


Even in the tech sector, prices are already going up because so much is paid for in dollars.

[tufty]

No, I was being silly. I just made up looking at that map. b/c it was mostly shades brown in the English parts.

Fuck you. Fuck you with a stick. Really, you stupid fucking cunt.

[OX mkII]

Cut this shit out and get a grip people, there's just no need.

[koogy]

> The EU seem to want the exit over and done with as quickly as possible.

isn't that just one bloke saying that though, Junkers?

iirc they are meeting today with the UK and tomorrow without. then we'll hear.

[The ghost of raids past]

Lord Falconer, shadow justice secretary
Heidi Alexander, shadow health secretary
Lucy Powell, shadow education secretary
Vernon Coaker, shadow Northern Ireland secretary
Ian Murray, shadow Scottish secretary - and Labour's only MP in Scotland
Kerry McCarthy, shadow environment secretary
Seema Malhotra, shadow chief secretary to the Treasury
Lillian Greenwood, shadow transport secretary
Gloria de Piero, shadow minister for young people and voter registration

and Hilary Benn being sacked, Not many left in the shadow cabinet now

[Absolute_Zero]

It's wall-to-wall tears before bedtime. A few points:

#1 It might be very EU-like to re-run the referendum until the "right" result is achieved, but there won't be a re-run. If there were (just for the sake of argument) I for one would switch my vote and vote to leave.

#2 Nicola needs to seek a phrenologist and a bevy of constitutional lawyers... she can't veto the referendum.

#3 Don't assume she'll either hold or win an independence vote.

#4 The unelected Brussels bureaucrats have no say as to when article 50 is invoked. Angie is already slapping them down. On the subject of unelected Brussels' bureaucrats, Juncker should join Cameron in resignation.

#5 We should play hard-ball. The European markets were hit much harder [2x to 4x] than our own. I'm curious about the German-hinted associate membership plan... if they can swing it with the others.

@Ethel Merman, the Tories aren't so weak-kneed as Gordon Brown. You will very likely get an election, presumably with the immovable Jezzer at the helm to oversee the decimation of the late-great Labour party.

[Barney]

[gumboot]

Your the one that can't add up.

And which numbers are you adding up to get your 93%, exactly?

Population density .

Each vote is weighted by how dense the voter is?

[Cloudane]

That girl has to be acting, no one is THAT stupid

[F-ZeroOne]

Tim Farron announcing they'll campaign on not leaving the EU at the next election.

This is significant. They'll never have a huge amount of seats but if we end up with a minority government again they could end up with a lot of power.

On that note, Nick Clegg has apparently spent his time out of the limelight honing his psychic powers:

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/wil ... ote-leave/

[pogo]

The Guardian has picked up on the potential stalemate over triggering Article 50.

Will article 50 ever be triggered?

it links to a blog post by the writer of the FT article, which expands on what he wrote for the FT

Why the Article 50 notification is important

This will not please Leave campaigners, and rightly so. It means the result of the referendum will be effectively ignored. But that was always possible, as it was set up deliberately as a non-binding referendum (unlike the Alternative Vote referendum, which was designed to have binding effect if there was a “yes” vote, which there wasn’t).

“Of course, they will respect the popular vote. They would dare not ignore it!” is the cry.

People saying this have a good point, but they should also remember a ship which never did get called Boaty McBoatface.

ESTRAGON: Well, shall we Leave?

VLADIMIR: Yes, let’s Leave.

[(o)(o)]

Lord Falconer, shadow justice secretary
Heidi Alexander, shadow health secretary
Lucy Powell, shadow education secretary
Vernon Coaker, shadow Northern Ireland secretary
Ian Murray, shadow Scottish secretary - and Labour's only MP in Scotland
Kerry McCarthy, shadow environment secretary
Seema Malhotra, shadow chief secretary to the Treasury
Lillian Greenwood, shadow transport secretary
Gloria de Piero, shadow minister for young people and voter registration

and Hilary Benn being sacked, Not many left in the shadow cabinet now

Hilary bomb-a-child-in-the-face Benn gives good ORALS in the HoC.

Personally I prefer authenticity in politics though, so yeah rinse a few of these out.

Looks like Tom Watson is positioning his ass out in front, despite saying he wouldn't make a leadership bid before.

[Meow]

No, I was being silly. I just made up looking at that map. b/c it was mostly shades brown in the English parts.

Fuck you. Fuck you with a stick. Really, you stupid fucking cunt.

Well your map was as brown as mine. What about Scotland? Not single shades of brown considering 4 out 10 decide to leave.