EU referendum are you in or out

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Farage has resigned.

Again?

But not his MEP seat with £80k salary plus expenses

Can he keep that if we're out?

What complete and utter mess this Brexit is turning into politically. The best news is Farage leaving, Maybe he will join the tories and become PM.

That's entirely as predicted by the remain camp. You didn't want trouble, you shouldn't have voted Brexit.

Birchill wants trouble, always has, probably always will, for her Brexit is ideal.

[Meow]

That's entirely as predicted by the remain camp. You didn't want trouble, you shouldn't have voted Brexit.

Birchill wants trouble, always has, probably always will, for her Brexit is ideal.

Oh yes I should. I'm glad I did, I have no regrets. Britain needs to take back control of it's borders and become independent once again. Britain will get another nasty Torrie. The British markets are already starting to stabilize. So everything is working out, and NO people didn't know Cameron leaving, nor did they know about Corbyn. Good riddance I say, I'm really enjoy the political mess. It's more the fault of the PM thinking, everyone is going to stay if anything. The majority got what it wanted and it is a happy day for all but most of the leavers and the Tories should have been ready.

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That's entirely as predicted by the remain camp. You didn't want trouble, you shouldn't have voted Brexit.

Birchill wants trouble, always has, probably always will, for her Brexit is ideal.

Oh yes I should. I'm glad I did, I have no regrets. Britain needs to take back control of it's borders and become independent once again. Britain will get another nasty Torrie. The British markets are already starting to stabilize. So everything is working out, and NO people didn't know Cameron leaving, nor did they know about Corbyn. Good riddance I say, I'm really enjoy the political mess. It's more the fault of the PM thinking, everyone is going to stay if anything. The majority got what it wanted and it is a happy day for all but most of the leavers and the Tories should have been ready.

48.x% unhappy is your idea of happy?

That's a riot.

Political turmoil is always fun to watch from the outside, as you are, but it's no fun to be in the middle of. They are going to axe the NHS over this, just you wait and see.

[funkstar]

Britain needs to take back control of it's borders and become independent once again.

But the UK had control of its borders already. Now, if you were against free movement of EU citizens, that's something else entirely. And, crucially, if the UK wants a deal with the EU to be part of the inner market, you're very likely to be forced to accept free movement, anyway.

And just what is "independent" supposed to mean, anyway? It sounds meaningful, but what does it actually entail, can you tell me that?

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And just what is "independent" supposed to mean, anyway? It sounds meaningful, but what does it actually entail, can you tell me that?

Broke, insolvent, bankrupt.

[pogo]

The majority got what it wanted and it is a happy day for all but most of the leavers and the Tories should have been ready.

No, they did not. Apart from the obvious electoral point, that it was only a majority of voters not a majority of British people, it’s not even true that most people voting got what they wanted.

Nothing has been implemented yet, so no-one in the Leave camp has gotten what they want. And even when (if?) Brexit happens a large number of Brexit voters are going to be very disappointed. Some wanted an end to free movement of people, some wanted to maintain access to the Single Market: one or other group is going to be disappointed. Some believed the lies of the Leave camp, such as the £350m a week available for the NHS, or that there would be no damage to the economy. They are already disappointed.

Already there’s anecdotal evidence of buyer’s remorse on the part of many Leave voters. Hard to say how this will make a difference but it’s likely any negotiations in parliament, certainly any new vote such as an early election, will take it into account.

[Meow]

48.x% unhappy is your idea of happy?

51.9% are very happy. How do you know all 48% are unhappy? Most are probably apprehensive. Did 70% of voters smash up the place when Cameron won by 30% in the last election?

They are going to axe the NHS over this, just you wait and see.

NHS wasn't invented b/c we were in the EU. It survived long before the EU. That is just fear mongering. Britain's open door policy has stretch the NHS to it's limits and beyond. If anything's going to finished the NHS, that immigration policy certainly will. Britain should have had a normal points base systems. Based on skills and what people can offer to Britain and to help legitimate refugee. What it should have had, was a buying power like a walmart if you will. All countries trade and buy together. With no freedom of movement just like every other country in the world outside the EU.

Now, if you were against free movement of EU citizens, that's something else entirely. And, crucially, if the UK wants a deal with the EU to be part of the inner market, you're very likely to be forced to accept free movement, anyway.

And just what is "independent" supposed to mean, anyway? It sounds meaningful, but what does it actually entail, can you tell me that?

Why does it have to have that? No Country outside the EU has that. Do you also you think all countries around the world should have Freedom of movement in order for trade? If NO. why Not? Why only to be in the EU club, should that be the case? Independants means Britain is in control of own future.

And just what is "independent" supposed to mean, anyway? It sounds meaningful, but what does it actually entail, can you tell me that?

Broke, insolvent, bankrupt.

That's just spin. It's is 6th largest economy in the world and will continue being a strong economy.

No, they did not. Apart from the obvious electoral point, that it was only a majority of voters not a majority of British people, it’s not even true that most people voting got what they wanted..

Not everyone is going to be happy and get exactly what they want, when it comes down to a "NO" and "YES" answer for such a complex issues and of course there is going to be lies and spin just like there is for everything, when comes right down to voting. You have to look past that and vote on what you believe is right.

[KlaxonCow]

Britain needs to take back control of it's borders

Yeah, that's exactly what the folks in Calais have been saying.

"Here, have your fucking border back. We don't want it over here anymore".

[Barney]

They are going to axe the NHS over this, just you wait and see.

NHS wasn't invented b/c we were in the EU. It survived long before the EU. That is just fear mongering. Britain's open door policy has stretch the NHS to it's limits and beyond. If anything's going to finished the NHS, that immigration policy certainly will. Britain should have had a normal points base systems. Based on skills and what people can offer to Britain and to help legitimate refugee. What it should have had, was a buying power like a walmart if you will. All countries trade and buy together. With no freedom of movement just like every other country in the world outside the EU.

Jesus Christ, you fucking muppet - do you not have a single coherent thought in your head at all? You surely can't blame that on your dyslexia.

Immigrants are preparing to abandon the NHS, and without those immigrants IT WILL CRUMBLE. We don't just rely on skilled work (ie, Doctors and Nurses) coming in to make up the enormous, staggering shortfall of native talent - we rely heavily on ancillary services, healthcare assistants - people with no demonstrable skills that take on the jobs at the bottom of the heap - literally the arse wipers and fetchers and carriers. With a points system they won't be able to get in, and we need them desperately.

And I know because I AM A FUCKING NURSE YOU COCKWOMBLE.

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Immigrants are preparing to abandon the NHS, and without those immigrants IT WILL CRUMBLE. We don't just rely on skilled work (ie, Doctors and Nurses) coming in to make up the enormous, staggering shortfall of native talent - we rely heavily on ancillary services, healthcare assistants - people with no demonstrable skills that take on the jobs at the bottom of the heap - literally the arse wipers and fetchers and carriers. With a points system they won't be able to get in, and we need them desperately.

And I know because I AM A FUCKING NURSE YOU COCKWOMBLE.

It works perfectly fine that system in every other country in the world and there are people willing to do the low paying work. Why does that not work for the EU? When every country in the world has a normal Immigration system. Canada has free healthcare and works very well without open door policy and it has not crumbled. No need for abuse. Fuckwit. Open door policy has over stretch the NHS it's a fact. I'm was not talking about who works for NHS there anyways. By reducing and controlling the Borders will help the NHS in the long run.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36699050

NHS stretched by immigration, says majority - report

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... -bill.html

Sickly immigrants add £1bn to NHS bill

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So, all these people who've had their jobs stolen by immigrants are going to go work for the NHS, then?

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That’s nonsense. Fact is migrants who are overwhelmingly young and active contribute far more to the economy than they take out. And that in particular includes health, where most of the spending is on the elderly and diseases of the elderly. And of course they make up a significant portion of the NHS workforce.

[Dio]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36699050

NHS stretched by immigration, says majority - report

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... -bill.html

Sickly immigrants add £1bn to NHS bill

So that's one piece in which the uninformed public express an (obviously incorrect) opinion and one piece which is the typical little Britain bias of (big hint here) the Daily Mail.

You're not very good at this debating business, are you?

[Meow]

You're not very good at this debating business, are you?

Why do have to be? Do I get a gold star?

[Jamesac]

Meow couldn't debate a stone, much less a group of people upset about a complicated political mess that's screwed over an entire country. It's probably best to just let the crazy sit there, despite him being the perfect example of the kind of idiot that got the soon-to-be-former UK into this mess in the first place.