EU referendum are you in or out
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Re: EU referendum are you in or out
"Companies will be named and shamed for employing foreign workers"
Became
"Companies will have to list the foreign workers they employ"
Is now either
"A secret Government list of firms employing foreign workers" or "A collection of statistics - not names - of foreign workers", depending on which Sunday morning political show you watch.
What a stupid and chaotic mess. When even your wacko guru Steve Hilton calls the policy "too far" you know you've got it wrong.
But it isn't the end of the madness. LSE were told that foreign experts would not be allowed to advise the Government on Brexit. That's like putting your foot in your mouth and then shooting at the foot.
Became
"Companies will have to list the foreign workers they employ"
Is now either
"A secret Government list of firms employing foreign workers" or "A collection of statistics - not names - of foreign workers", depending on which Sunday morning political show you watch.
What a stupid and chaotic mess. When even your wacko guru Steve Hilton calls the policy "too far" you know you've got it wrong.
But it isn't the end of the madness. LSE were told that foreign experts would not be allowed to advise the Government on Brexit. That's like putting your foot in your mouth and then shooting at the foot.
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Ironically didn't Goldman Sachs hired Durão Barroso to advise them in dealing with Brexit? He is now living in London to fullfill is duties. It's one more foreign worker. Or maybe in the high spheres of finance it doesn't count.
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Of course it doesn't. Foreign Secretary Phillip Hammond already said there would be exceptions for EU bankers.PFVA wrote:Ironically didn't Goldman Sachs hired Durão Barroso to advise them in dealing with Brexit? He is now living in London to fullfill is duties. It's one more foreign worker. Or maybe in the high spheres of finance it doesn't count.
Theresa May says it's "unacceptable" for Parliament to have a say on the Brexit deal.
So there's your "taking back control" and "regaining our sovereignty" - deals done behind closed doors and unatified by the representatives of the people.
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And 48 hours later - U-turn!merman wrote:Of course it doesn't. Foreign Secretary Phillip Hammond already said there would be exceptions for EU bankers.PFVA wrote:Ironically didn't Goldman Sachs hired Durão Barroso to advise them in dealing with Brexit? He is now living in London to fullfill is duties. It's one more foreign worker. Or maybe in the high spheres of finance it doesn't count.
Theresa May says it's "unacceptable" for Parliament to have a say on the Brexit deal.
So there's your "taking back control" and "regaining our sovereignty" - deals done behind closed doors and unatified by the representatives of the people.
Cameron's successor in more ways than one.
Meanwhile, the £ hits a 168-year low. I seem to remember Leave saying how wonderful Brexit was going to be...
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The pound dropping more might not be because of Brexit itself, but the uncertainty around it because they are making a pig's ear of it.
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Re: EU referendum are you in or out
Nah, it's the new plastic fiver wot dun it.Little stoned kiwi wrote:The pound dropping more might not be because of Brexit itself, but the uncertainty around it because they are making a pig's ear of it.
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Well what else were they going to do? They're British politicians!Little stoned kiwi wrote:The pound dropping more might not be because of Brexit itself, but the uncertainty around it because they are making a pig's ear of it.
Re: EU referendum are you in or out
Brexit = uncertainty, regardless of how well the ham fisted fucktards in charge manage to do it.Little stoned kiwi wrote:The pound dropping more might not be because of Brexit itself, but the uncertainty around it because they are making a pig's ear of it.
Uncertainty = an opportunity to make a fistful of money. See also "Black Wednesday"
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Re: EU referendum are you in or out
Nick Giambruno: Doug, you predicted the fall of the European Union a few years ago. What has changed since then?
Doug Casey: Well, what's changed is that the entire situation has gotten much worse. The inevitable has now become the imminent.
The European Union evolved, devolved actually, from basically a free trade pact among a few countries to a giant, dysfunctional, overreaching bureaucracy. Free trade is an excellent idea. However, you don't need to legislate free trade; that’s almost a contradiction in terms. A free trade pact between different governments is unnecessary for free trade. An individual country interested in prosperity and freedom only needs to eliminate all import and export duties, and all import and export quotas. When a country has duties or quotas, it’s essentially putting itself under embargo, shooting its economy in the foot. Businesses should trade with whoever they want for their own advantage.
Nick Giambruno: Why should Americans care about this?
Doug Casey: Well, just as the breakup of the Soviet Union had a good effect for both the world at large and for Americans, the breakup of the EU should be viewed in the same light. Freeing an economy anywhere increases prosperity and opportunity everywhere. And it sets a good example. So Americans ought to look forward to the breakup of the EU almost as much as the Europeans themselves. Unfortunately, most Americans are quite insular. And Europeans are so used to socialism that they have even less grasp of economics than Americans. But it’s going to happen anyway.
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And the Brexit Bonus - inflation!
Phillip "err, do I have to do something?" Hammond expects inflation to go beyond the target - in other words more than 2%, when the Governor of the Bank of England has to write to the Exchequer and explain why.
And Phillip "maybe in the Autumn Statement?" Hammond's estimate of how long the inflationary pressure will continue? A few months. Or maybe a few years. He's still trying to work it out on the abacus George "towel folder" Osborne left on his desk...
Phillip "err, do I have to do something?" Hammond expects inflation to go beyond the target - in other words more than 2%, when the Governor of the Bank of England has to write to the Exchequer and explain why.
And Phillip "maybe in the Autumn Statement?" Hammond's estimate of how long the inflationary pressure will continue? A few months. Or maybe a few years. He's still trying to work it out on the abacus George "towel folder" Osborne left on his desk...
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Re: EU referendum are you in or out
merman wrote:And the Brexit Bonus - inflation!
Phillip "err, do I have to do something?" Hammond expects inflation to go beyond the target - in other words more than 2%, when the Governor of the Bank of England has to write to the Exchequer and explain why.
And Phillip "maybe in the Autumn Statement?" Hammond's estimate of how long the inflationary pressure will continue? A few months. Or maybe a few years. He's still trying to work it out on the abacus George "towel folder" Osborne left on his desk...
He'll probably get building again which won't help inflation (UK imports material & labour)
I see Rees Mogg considers Bath's urbanites germs for voting remain
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Re: EU referendum are you in or out
Apart from political fallout and tantrum throwing, from where I'm sitting, nothing has actually happened yet. Just yank the sticking plaster off already instead of slowly picking at it.tufty wrote: Brexit = uncertainty, regardless of how well the ham fisted fucktards in charge manage to do it.
Uncertainty = an opportunity to make a fistful of money. See also "Black Wednesday"
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Re: EU referendum are you in or out
I get paid in Euros. My pay has shot through the roof. I voted remain, so feel a little bad about that. Not too much though.Little stoned kiwi wrote:Apart from political fallout and tantrum throwing, from where I'm sitting, nothing has actually happened yet. Just yank the sticking plaster off already instead of slowly picking at it.tufty wrote: Brexit = uncertainty, regardless of how well the ham fisted fucktards in charge manage to do it.
Uncertainty = an opportunity to make a fistful of money. See also "Black Wednesday"
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