EU referendum are you in or out

[Dio]

Please let Jeremy know what it is that he's insisting his MPs vote for.

Well, quite.

[Dio]

If they held another referendum and the result was Remain, would another be needed to make it best out of three?

No, because if we did do another referendum it wouldn't be deliberately phrased in moronic terms to try to get the result you want rather than actually find out what the people think.

Well, you'd fucking hope at least.

[Absolute_Zero]

"deliberately phrased in moronic terms to try to get the result you want"

Given that the PTB were almost entirely for Remain... really? One might complain about the 4th estate, but then they wouldn't be "free".

It's more an issue of the Remain campaign's overconfident, self-defeating hyperbole that it didn't effectively address the logical consequences of Leave, not that the Electoral Commission had failed its 'question' mandate. A certain leader's lack of vim and brio may have contributed as a significant Remain bleed point.

http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/f ... assessment

Usually reasonable. Strange times.

[Dio]

They deliberately asked a simple yes/no question in order that they could portray no as a horror to implement (true) and an uncertain future (probably true).

If they'd have had a multiple option question that included various hard exit / soft exit options then we'd have a much clearer idea and more democratic mandate. But the view was that having soft options would increase the change of an overall Leave vote which is the very last thing Cameron wanted, since the purpose of it was to get his own backbenchers to leave him alone.

[venusian]

the purpose of it was to get his own backbenchers to leave him alone.

So not entirely a dead loss then.

[tufty]

If they held another referendum and the result was Remain, would another be needed to make it best out of three?

There's already been two.

There was one in 1975, and another in 2016.

[KlaxonCow]

If they held another referendum and the result was Remain, would another be needed to make it best out of three?

Sure, why not?

Well, unless it's the wrong result.

Best of five...?

[KlaxonCow]

Next referendum should simply be "Are you sure? [Y/N] "

Better yet, "Abort, Retry, Fail?".

[Absolute_Zero]

Betterer still...

[guythp]

If they'd have had a multiple option question that included various hard exit / soft exit options .

If they'd done that then I'd've giggled, ticked my vote then probably drawn a spunking cock somewhere on the paper, thus invalidating my vote. Not that it would've mattered in the scheme of things.

[Mayhem]

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Very interesting input from Ivan Rogers today.

One of those annoying experts that the Tories hate - because he has something of substance to say that doesn't fit the ideology.

Anyone actually listening to his comments today will understand the extraordinary complexities of Brexit that lay ahead.

From various sources I'm getting the distinct impression Whitehall is at melting point..

[tufty]

498 to 114, then. Fuck the fucking spineless cunts.

[gumboot]

Brexit wins by a landslide, you say?

[tufty]

No, "elected representatives fail to represent their electors".